Zero2Cool
10 years ago
Sean Richardson will make bur Burnett expendable.

Sean Richardson, the fourth but hardly forgotten member of the Green Bay Packers’ resurgent safety position, is ready for extended duty Sunday night in New Orleans if Morgan Burnett isn’t available.

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10 years ago
Had has had a few decent moments in the past. He will have to step up and play big Sunday nght.
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steveishere
10 years ago
I really think Richardson would excel in the SS role. Him at SS and HHCD at FS actually seems to me like it could make a great combo.
DoddPower
10 years ago
Drew Breese is just the type of QB I would expect to abuse a player like Richardson in coverage. Especially if Graham is healthy enough. Perhaps Graham's injury will be just enough to level to playing field, though.
Mucky Tundra
10 years ago

Sean Richardson will make bur Burnett expendable.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



"How can he make Burnett expendable if I don't give him the reps on defense, Zero?"
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beast
10 years ago

I really think Richardson would excel in the SS role. Him at SS and HHCD at FS actually seems to me like it could make a great combo.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



The question for me is can Richardson cover in man to man? In the past his hips have seemed too tight to cut and adjust when too close and was better at a distance when he could read and attack ahead of time and didn't have to adjust his hips much. Of course a 1st fully healthy offseason can do a lot for a guy.

TE Jimmy Graham on the other hand has great hip movement which helps him with cuts, movement and controlling his body, I've said the guy reminds me much like a WRs than a TE. At blocking the kid is VERY feisty, but other than maybe speed his limitations seem more like a WR to me, and his in line blocking hasn't look the best.


Then again, if you have Hyde in the nickel/dime covering Graham man to man and Richardson in the SS role playing a zone over the top could be a perfect fit. And then blitzing on of the DBs once in a while.



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steveishere
10 years ago

The question for me is can Richardson cover in man to man? In the past his hips have seemed too tight to cut and adjust when too close and was better at a distance when he could read and attack ahead of time and didn't have to adjust his hips much. Of course a 1st fully healthy offseason can do a lot for a guy.

TE Jimmy Graham on the other hand has great hip movement which helps him with cuts, movement and controlling his body, I've said the guy reminds me much like a WRs than a TE. At blocking the kid is VERY feisty, but other than maybe speed his limitations seem more like a WR to me, and his in line blocking hasn't look the best.


Then again, if you have Hyde in the nickel/dime covering Graham man to man and Richardson in the SS role playing a zone over the top could be a perfect fit. And then blitzing on of the DBs once in a while.


Originally Posted by: beast 



I don't really think any one of us has even seen Richardson in coverage more than a handful of times a year in his entire NFL career so far. At least according to PFF he's only been targeted in coverage 5 times as a pro. We simply don't know at this point. I don't really know how anyone can say he's too stiff or he's awful or anything in coverage. He might be those things but I know that I haven't seen it yet. He does look like he can play downhill, tackle and hit well though which are good traits for a SS. He's probably athletic enough to be decent in coverage and if he gets more play time we'll see how he does.

Even if Richardson were to play a lot against NO I would bet my money on Hayward or Hyde spending the most time covering him.
beast
10 years ago

I don't really think any one of us has even seen Richardson in coverage more than a handful of times a year in his entire NFL career so far.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Last year at times he played more snaps than S Jennings. He's been in coverage more than a handful of times in a few (very few) games.

At least according to PFF he's only been targeted in coverage 5 times as a pro.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



And what does that mean? Only 5 times he's been in man to man coverage when targeting? are they counting zone coverage when the LB sits short and he sits deep? Packers did play a lot of cover 2 last year where the Safety the "target" would of most likely been on someone underneath and not the Safety.

I don't really know how anyone can say he's too stiff or he's awful or anything in coverage.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 


I didn't say he was awful in coverage just not sure I want him man to man with a WR... and can say it by watching him play (though limited snaps and he hadn't had a full healthy offseason to that point yet, which as I said a full healthy offseason can sometimes help a ton).

He does look like he can play downhill, tackle and hit well though which are good traits for a SS.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



With out a doubt, yes! Richardson fits the perfect mold of the old school SS/LB tweener like Bigby was but Bigby lacked a lot in coverage which people often times overlooked because of his big hits (and Bigby at times did an amazing job of dislodging the ball to break up the catch at times.


Even if Richardson were to play a lot against NO I would bet my money on Hayward or Hyde spending the most time covering him.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



That's my thought too... but the problem there is height different... 6'6" against a sub 6' guy... I'm sure the Saints are looking at how that match-up worked for Martellus Bennett when the Packers played the Bears. But of course he might of had better WRs on the outside than Graham and more focus MIGHT be on Graham than it was on Bennett.

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