Smokey
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10 years ago
IMO, the best player to ever wear the Packer uniform, was Bart Starr # 15 . He lead the 60's Packers to more Championships than any Packer player before or since. Times change, seasons expand, records get set, but Bart Starr was a winner for the ages. It was my privilege to watch those 60's games featuring the Hall of Famer that more than anyone else made me a Lifelong Packer Fan.

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Smokey
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10 years ago
Who is your all time favorite Packer ?

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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
I'm just curious, Smokey (or anybody else in here), were you around back then - the Bart Starr era - as a player I mean, or did you mean watch replays of them in the present era?

I was ...... He was GREAT in a lot of ways, and absolutely, that - the Lombardi era - was the greatest period for the Packers as a team in terms of overall domination and star players in comparison to the rest of the league. And of course, it's difficult to compare players from different eras for a lot of reasons. Just the same, I don't think Starr was quite on the level of Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers (projecting a decent number of additional great years for him). Since QB is the most important position, it would have to be between these three for who was the BEST EVER PACKER, but I'd put Hornung right up there too.

You know, "greatest", "best", and "favorite" really could be considered three entirely different things. My favorite was Ray Nitschke - I wonder how much guys like him and Butkis would be able to get away with under today's damn rules.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago
The greatest Green Bay Packers player for me has to Don Hutson. He redefined not only the receiver position, but the passing game and doesn't get the credit he deserves.
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wpr
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10 years ago
We have had this discussion a few times. If you are looking for the best thrower then Favre or Rodgers can be discussed. If you are looking for the best overall QB and team leader including the guy who calls the plays then it is Starr and Starr alone. Aaron will probably be there in the end but she was a ways to go.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

We have had this discussion a few times. If you are looking for the best thrower then Favre or Rodgers can be discussed. If you are looking for the best overall QB and team leader including the guy who calls the plays then it is Starr and Starr alone. Aaron will probably be there in the end but she was a ways to go.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



If you are talking THROWER, how can you not include Lynn Dickey? I know you are certainly old enough to have witnessed him so his exclusion is just foul play sir. [grin1]
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TheKanataThrilla
10 years ago
The problem being neither Favre or Rodgers got to play with such a dominant team or under a coach like Lombardi. The system no doubt assists the player. I would love to see Aaron behind a great offensive line. His passing numbers would be stuff of Stat Whore legend.
wpr
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10 years ago

If you are talking THROWER, how can you not include Lynn Dickey? I know you are certainly old enough to have witnessed him so his exclusion is just foul play sir. [grin1]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Alright in the "who is the best thrower" toss Lynn in too. My not mentioning him didn't exclude him unless you have giving me extra power and authority that I was unaware of. But that category is not the question of this thread so I guess you get to start a new one. [grin1]
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10 years ago

The problem being neither Favre or Rodgers got to play with such a dominant team or under a coach like Lombardi. The system no doubt assists the player. I would love to see Aaron behind a great defensive line. His passing numbers would be stuff of Stat Whore legend.

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You forget that the passing rules where completely different back then. The WR would be laying on the ground half the time and he wouldn't have a target to pass to. Both modern QBs would have done exactly the same thing that Starr did. They would have taken the snap turned and handed the ball off to Horning and Taylor most of the time.
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

We have had this discussion a few times. If you are looking for the best thrower then Favre or Rodgers can be discussed. If you are looking for the best overall QB and team leader including the guy who calls the plays then it is Starr and Starr alone. Aaron will probably be there in the end but she was a ways to go.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



ooooooh - I HOPE that wasn't intentional hahahahaha.

I agree Hutson is right there with the others I mentioned, but I only went with the ones I actually saw - even I am not old enough for Hutson.


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