BEST EVER PACKER !· Page 2

texaspackerbacker
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10 years ago

If you are talking THROWER, how can you not include Lynn Dickey? I know you are certainly old enough to have witnessed him so his exclusion is just foul play sir. [grin1]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

A great man once said ........ I think it was in the Power Rankings thread ....... something like "it's all about the statistics". That's why I put Favre and Rodgers on top. Starr was a super leader - bringing Lombardi right into the huddle, although with a different tone, but Favre and Rodgers were/are excellent leaders in their own way too, and arguably under more difficult circumstances - the attitudes of present day athletes.

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earthquake
Member

10 years ago

#12

The greatest Green Bay Packers player for me has to Don Hutson. He redefined not only the receiver position, but the passing game and doesn't get the credit he deserves.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yes I think I have to agree. If greatest has anything to do with how dominate a player was in relation to the rest of the league at the time, then Hutson makes a good case for being the greatest packer and possibly even greatest player ever. If you look back at what he did when he did it, nobody else came close. If you look at Starr, Favre, and Rodgers, similar players accomplished similar things in their respective eras. It took Rice to break many of Hutson's records, and while most would consider Rice the greatest WR of all time, Rice didn't dominate like Hutson did.

Nobody dominated like Hutson though, and its unlikely anyone ever will again. Though, the counter argument to this is that it is more telling of the general quality of play (or lack thereof) at the time Hutson was playing.

He definitely does not get credit for what he did for the game, which was essentially define the modern passing game that exists today.

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wpr
Preferred Member

10 years ago

#13

ooooooh - I HOPE that wasn't intentional hahahahaha.

I agree Hutson is right there with the others I mentioned, but I only went with the ones I actually saw - even I am not old enough for Hutson.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

It was an error. It would have been funny if I had meant it. I glance for misspelled words but spell check don't help if I put a real word into the sentence.

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

10 years ago

#14

Saw thread title, thought it over and concluded Hutson but then I look through the thread before posting and saw that Zero said Hutson already. 👎

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wpr
Preferred Member

10 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: earthquake

Don certainly was the greatest WR but he was also an outstanding DB and a pretty good K. He had 8 ints in 1943 in just 10 games in an era when they didn't throw the ball.

I guess that means he is the best overall player ever. A few years ago I may have been the first to say this. I got waylaid by Smokey talking about the modern QB's and Zero got the honors. Darnit.

yooperfan
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#16

I'm just curious, Smokey (or anybody else in here), were you around back then - the Bart Starr era - as a player I mean, or did you mean watch replays of them in the present era?

I was ...... He was GREAT in a lot of ways, and absolutely, that - the Lombardi era - was the greatest period for the Packers as a team in terms of overall domination and star players in comparison to the rest of the league. And of course, it's difficult to compare players from different eras for a lot of reasons. Just the same, I don't think Starr was quite on the level of Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers (projecting a decent number of additional great years for him). Since QB is the most important position, it would have to be between these three for who was the BEST EVER PACKER, but I'd put Hornung right up there too.

You know, "greatest", "best", and "favorite" really could be considered three entirely different things. My favorite was Ray Nitschke - I wonder how much guys like him and Butkis would be able to get away with under today's damn rules.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

I was as well and my favorite was also Nitschke.
However the greatest for me boils down to Hutson or Starr.
I have only read about the great Don Hutson, but I was able to see Starr play.
For that reason alone my choice is Bart Starr.

Rockmolder
Honored Member

10 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: wpr

You can't really argue with Don Hutson as the greatest. I guess you could make a point about the competition being nowhere close to where it is now at that point. I could imagine that, as someone with slight athleticism, you could make an NFL roster if you put a little effort in.

Still, domination like that hasn't happened since and will never happen again.

I guess I'll go with my favourites, as well, then.

In no particular order, I think it'd be Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, Willie Davis and Reggie White. They were all amazing pass rushers and amazing people.

Smokey
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Well Tex, I used to watch the live B&W broadcast of the Sunday Games. Then pretend to be # 15 on Monday after school.
I had an Uncle that lived on and ran a farm in N.C. . We (my family) would visit on some weekends. My older cousin's liked different teams. The older cousin liked the Colts and had newspaper clippings of them all over the walls of his bedroom. The younger cousin did the same with his favorite team, The Packers . We would lie in a row in front of the TV at my Uncles House with pillows and blankets and watch the Sunday games. It would be a major event when the Colts played the Packers. I became a fan in "63" and enjoyed nothing more than watching the Packers stomp a mudhole in the Cowboys and then walk it dry.

Tezzy
Senior Member

10 years ago

#19

A bunch of players for the Packers have helped define how a position should be played in the NFL and are gold standards. I am biased like anyone, for me the best is Willie Davis. Defined how a position should be played and dominated it his entire career with the Packers. Between the stats as a Packer and what he has done after his NFL career is astounding to me.

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dfosterf
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10 years ago

#20

Aaron Rodgers.

The man is sick good. Bart Starr never scared me, (as a zealot fan-nervousness wise watching a game) Brett Favre always did, and Aaron Rodgers took Bart Starr Smarts with Brett Favre arm. Don Hutson was awesome for his day, but Aaron Rodgers is on track to break all the records, and he has yet to have an offensive line that he should have been provided in order to reach his full potential.

Put me down for Aaron Rodgers as the best Green Bay Packer ever. I got perspective, no snot-nose. I was a fan before Vince Lombardi by one year... talk about perfect timing for a lad watching the Pack.

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Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

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