The majority of the time, they are FAR from "objective" or "reality." But, it's obvious he's incapable of seeing that
Originally Posted by: DoddPower
You might be right... but overall he's seems like a smart guy, who sees the points and knows when he's had and then changes his argument... that seems a lot more like an internet troll or someone who's willing blind to their own problems than incapable. Then again he claimed he's a perfectionist to maybe he has to be willing blind to his faults because he's incapable of going forward knowing he has some?
But if someone tries to tell me not to enjoy a historical come back win . . . well they can just kiss my [boxing].
Originally Posted by: DoddPower
Exactly!
It is not negative to point out that it's an absolute joke to be celebrating a win
Originally Posted by: uffda udfa
You're right, it's not negative it's ABSOLUTE STUPID to point out fans shouldn't be happy their team won! But I was trying to be nice by saying negative... but it's ABSOLUTELY STUPID in reality...
Fans of teams want their team to win... and they normally get happy when their team wins. It's not a joke, it's common sense reality, which you're willingly or unwilling blind to.
But trying to moderate others enjoyment of a win just seems stupid to me. It's not like you're going to change how people feel about it anyway.
Originally Posted by: DoddPower
Completely agree... and you're going to piss people off in the process which might be what he's trying to do.
It is not that you choose to take a "realist" approach to making your points.. it is how you frame it that gets the reaction you get. And I think you know that.. it is part of the reason you present it as such.
Originally Posted by: Pack93z
Yup sounds like a troll who knows what he's doing.
But it is very possible to be objective yet not get the backlash you generate. And it has nothing to do with the audience being a homer or not.
Originally Posted by: Pack93z
Completely agree. Others say some of the same things and don't get much if any backlash... he seems to be trying to get it.
Using your exact words:
My presentation is what it is because I feel it's necessary to combat the blatant homerism that is presented and homerism and reality are not cousins nor friends of one another.
Originally Posted by: DoddPower
You feel the need to "combat" other people perspectives.
uffda udfa wrote:
Great point. He's looking for a fight... and plays the innocence victim when he gets it.
I still don't understand why people rag on uffda so much. Sure, he is less than diplomatic at times and perhaps enjoys being blunt with respect to other individual posters
Originally Posted by: Wade
Maybe you meant without respect to others?
He really suggest "it's an absolute joke" for Packers fans "to be celebrating" a Packers win? That's in in no way reality or subjective as he pretends to be. That's suggesting how others how they should act and react and if they don't agree with him then they're too biased to know things or they're blind to reality, which he is blind to how he talks to others or is trolling for reactions, that's why there is the backlash... if he just focused on the teams actions and reactions and his own then he probably wouldn't be getting ragged on nearly as much...
But I find he does make important points
Originally Posted by: Wade
I agree he has made some great points at times... but also been a complete asshat to those who disagree at times... which is why people are asshats to him and rag on him.