Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
Is it Time for the Packers to Scrap the 4-3?  

was pretty clear to me when things turned around defensively for the Green Bay Packers on Sunday. When Dom Capers decided to move back into his more traditional 3 man fronts the Packers were able to slow the Jets down. After allowing 21 points on the first 3 drives and giving everyone in Green Bay a heart attack Capers went back to old reliable and it worked. The question now is whether or not to abandon the 4-3 concepts that the team installed this offseason or to continue and try work out the kinks.

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nerdmann
10 years ago
If it's just a matter of them still having to overthink, then let them work it out.

While they're doing that, maybe help out the defense by domination ToP. Right?
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steveishere
10 years ago
It's time to scrap playing Guion instead of Boyd and give some more of Peppers/Neal snaps to Perry. It's also time to scrap playing a single series with 8 different formations with 8 other personnel groupings for each formation. If you want to go 4-3 pick the guys who are going to run it that series and let them play it, if you need to run the nickle out there then do that substitution but you don't have to completely change out your d-line, linebacker, and secondary groupings on a play to play basis all freakin day.
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DarkaneRules
10 years ago
I don't care what scheme you are using just don't put your best pass rushers and run stoppers too far away from the ball. It just doesn't make any damn sense.
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beast
10 years ago

Do the Packers have the DL to run a true 3-4 for the whole season? ... I'm not sure they do, I think they need a change up other than just the 3-4 unless their DL gets better than I'm think they currently are.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Do the Packers have the DL to run a true 3-4 for the whole season? ... I'm not sure they do, I think they need a change up other than just the 3-4 unless their DL gets better than I'm think they currently are.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Let's face it, they're gonna be running a hybrid no matter what. And it will probably consist of plenty of 2-5.
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Smokey
10 years ago
Had B.J Raji not been injured , the Defence would be better. The problem is not 3-4 vs 4-3 , but the poor backups expected to fill in when asked to "step up". The answer could be a general manager willing to do what it takes to fill the void. Trade some of those well fed boys for capable players. Ex: the current "step up" Nose Tackle that is getting pounded. [assault]
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evad04
10 years ago
I think the 4-3/3-4 debate is slightly overblown, if for any reason that the number of snaps employing said schemes during the first two weeks likely won't reflect much of the rest of the Packers' season.

Seattle is a run-first team. So is New York. Against those teams it's not unexpected to see more base defense.

Expect to see a lot of sub packages against Detroit and Chicago, and later New Orleans and Atlanta. And Detroit and Chicago again. And the Eagles. And the Patriots.

But I agree with much of the sentiment already stated. Get guys in a good position to succeed. Keep fresh bodies but don't overcomplicate things.
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evad04
10 years ago

Had B.J Raji not been injured , the Defence would be better. The problem is not 3-4 vs 4-3 , but the poor backups expected to fill in when asked to "step up". The answer could be a general manager willing to do what it takes to fill the void. Trade some of those well fed boys for capable players. Ex: the current "step up" Nose Tackle that is getting pounded. [assault]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



I don't know if it's that easy. Sounds good in Madden, but in-season trades aren't that common. And it would probably take a bit to get a player up to speed.

Honestly, I think the best option might be to see if ol' Pickett is in decent shape.
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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
When did the stop using the 4-3? I saw it at times throughout the game.

It comes down to having your best players on the field, and to me those players would better fit 4-3 base defense.
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