Is it Time for the Packers to Scrap the 4-3?

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

was pretty clear to me when things turned around defensively for the Green Bay Packers on Sunday. When Dom Capers decided to move back into his more traditional 3 man fronts the Packers were able to slow the Jets down. After allowing 21 points on the first 3 drives and giving everyone in Green Bay a heart attack Capers went back to old reliable and it worked. The question now is whether or not to abandon the 4-3 concepts that the team installed this offseason or to continue and try work out the kinks.

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers

Wanna join the discussion?! Login to your PACKERSHOME forum account or Register a new forum account

nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

If it's just a matter of them still having to overthink, then let them work it out.

While they're doing that, maybe help out the defense by domination ToP. Right?

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

steveishere
Veteran Member

10 years ago

It's time to scrap playing Guion instead of Boyd and give some more of Peppers/Neal snaps to Perry. It's also time to scrap playing a single series with 8 different formations with 8 other personnel groupings for each formation. If you want to go 4-3 pick the guys who are going to run it that series and let them play it, if you need to run the nickle out there then do that substitution but you don't have to completely change out your d-line, linebacker, and secondary groupings on a play to play basis all freakin day.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

10 years ago

I don't care what scheme you are using just don't put your best pass rushers and run stoppers too far away from the ball. It just doesn't make any damn sense.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

beast
Select Member

10 years ago

Do the Packers have the DL to run a true 3-4 for the whole season? ... I'm not sure they do, I think they need a change up other than just the 3-4 unless their DL gets better than I'm think they currently are.

nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

Originally Posted by: beast

Let's face it, they're gonna be running a hybrid no matter what. And it will probably consist of plenty of 2-5.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Smokey
Veteran Member

10 years ago

Had B.J Raji not been injured , the Defence would be better. The problem is not 3-4 vs 4-3 , but the poor backups expected to fill in when asked to "step up". The answer could be a general manager willing to do what it takes to fill the void. Trade some of those well fed boys for capable players. Ex: the current "step up" Nose Tackle that is getting pounded. [assault]

evad04
Member

10 years ago

I think the 4-3/3-4 debate is slightly overblown, if for any reason that the number of snaps employing said schemes during the first two weeks likely won't reflect much of the rest of the Packers' season.

Seattle is a run-first team. So is New York. Against those teams it's not unexpected to see more base defense.

Expect to see a lot of sub packages against Detroit and Chicago, and later New Orleans and Atlanta. And Detroit and Chicago again. And the Eagles. And the Patriots.

But I agree with much of the sentiment already stated. Get guys in a good position to succeed. Keep fresh bodies but don't overcomplicate things.

William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
"I'm a reasonable man, get off my case."

evad04
Member

10 years ago

Had B.J Raji not been injured , the Defence would be better. The problem is not 3-4 vs 4-3 , but the poor backups expected to fill in when asked to "step up". The answer could be a general manager willing to do what it takes to fill the void. Trade some of those well fed boys for capable players. Ex: the current "step up" Nose Tackle that is getting pounded. [assault]

Originally Posted by: Smokey

I don't know if it's that easy. Sounds good in Madden, but in-season trades aren't that common. And it would probably take a bit to get a player up to speed.

Honestly, I think the best option might be to see if ol' Pickett is in decent shape.

William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
"I'm a reasonable man, get off my case."

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#10

When did the stop using the 4-3? I saw it at times throughout the game.

It comes down to having your best players on the field, and to me those players would better fit 4-3 base defense.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

beast (22h) : Seems like he was just pissed because he was no longer the starter

beast (22h) : Campbell is right, he's rich and he doesn't have to explain sh!t... but that attitude gives teams reasons to never sign him again.

dfosterf (22-Feb) : I have some doubt about all that

dfosterf (22-Feb) : I read De'Vondre Campbell's tweet this morning (via the New York Post) Florio says that if he invested his earnings wisely, he will be good

beast (20-Feb) : I haven't followed, but I believe he's good when healthy, just hasn't been able to stay healthy.

dfosterf (20-Feb) : Hasn"t Bosa missed more games than he has played in the last 3 years?

Mucky Tundra (19-Feb) : He hasn't been too bad when healthy but I don't feel like I ever heard much about when he is

Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : Felt like he was more interested in his body, than football. He flashed more than I expected

Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : When he was coming out, I thought he'd be flash in pan.

Mucky Tundra (19-Feb) : Joey seems so forgettable compared to his brother for some reason

Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : NFL informed teams today that the 2025 salary cap will be roughly $277.5M-$281.5M

Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : Los Angeles Chargers are likely to release DE Joey Bosa this off-season as a cap casualty, per league source.

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : If the exploit is not fixed, we'll see tons of "50 top free agents, 50 perfect NFL team fits: We picked where each should sign in March" lo

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Issue should be solved, database cleaned and held strong working / meeting. Boom!

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : It should be halted now.

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : usually spambots are trying to get traffic to shady websites filled with spyware; the two links being spammed were to the Packers website

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : you know when you put it that way combined with the links it was spamming (to the official Packers website)

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yep. You can do that with holding down ENTER on a command in Console of browser

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : even with the rapid fire posts?

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : I'm not certain it's a bot.

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I've got to go to work soon which is a pity because I'm enthralled by this battle between the bot and Zero

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yeah, I see what that did. Kind of funny.

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : now it's a link to Wes Hodkiezwicz mailbag

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Now they're back with another topic

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : oh lol

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : I have a script that purges them now.

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : 118 Topics with Message.

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : what's 118 (besides a number)?

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : They got 118 slapped in there.

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : that's why it confused the hell out of me

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yeah, but this is taking a headline and slapping it into the Packers Talk

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Wasnt there a time guests could post in the help forum?

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : lol good question, kind of impressed!

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : So how is a guest posting?

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Tell them its an emergency

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Working. Meetings.

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Lots of fun; the spam goes back 4 or 5 pages by this point

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I thought you'd look for yourself and put 2 and 2 together lol. I overestimated ya ;)

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I thought Guests couldnt post?

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : And gosh that's gonna be fun to clean up! hahaa

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Oh. Why not just say that then? Geez.

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : check the main forum, seems a spam bot is running amok

Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : What?

Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Is the Packers online game "Packers Predict" now available for 2024? I can't tell

Zero2Cool (17-Feb) : Bengals planning to Franchise Tag Tamaurice Higgins

Zero2Cool (14-Feb) : Packers are hiring Luke Getsy as senior offensive assistant.

Martha Careful (12-Feb) : I would love to have them both, esp. Crosby, but either might be too expensive.

Zero2Cool (12-Feb) : Keisean Nixon is trying to get Maxx Crosby and Davante Adams lol

Mucky Tundra (11-Feb) : Yeah where did it go?

packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : or did you resctrict access to that topic?

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

30 - 14

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

29 - 31

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

24 - 19

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

34 - 13

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

24 - 22

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

30 - 27

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

14 - 24

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

20 - 19

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

38 - 10

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

30 - 17

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

31 - 34

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

30 - 13

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

34 - 0

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM

Vikings

25 - 27

Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

22 - 24

Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM

Eagles

10 - 22