Despite rally, defensive issues linger· Page 2

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

10 years ago

Yep. I saw some linebacker stacks in the first half that were woefully ineffective. I will happy to never see those again.

Having seen the game live, one of the biggest things I saw was actually from Aaron Rodgers. As great as he is, he seems to be over-analyzing and over-complicated the plays at time instead of taking what is being given. I also see a little distrust with the youth and inexperience on the field. I will be watching as the season goes on how that develops.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#12

What? No way!

We have been saying this over and over again. Stop the cute, Start the pound.

When players can play instinctive football, they play better football. The more you make players think, the less speed they have.

Two words. Analysis. Paralysis.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

:-k

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

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nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

#13

:-k

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

If it's a simple case of over thinking, then it's probably due to the switch back to the 4-3. So I'm less worried. That should start to come together with time.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

wpr
Preferred Member

10 years ago

#14

The other organization is paid to play too.

You're not going to dominate for 60 minutes. Saints are 0-2 against below .500 teams from last year. Seahawks just lost to an 8-8 team from 2013. 49ers blew a 17 point lead to the Bears AT HOME. These are 3 of the favorites in the NFC. Are they not playing down to their competition? Are they avoiding "lulls?"

Originally Posted by: musccy

I know exactly what you are saying but to point at the ineptitude from other teams does not diminish the poor play we have seen from GB in the first two games.

Giving up 109 yards rushing and 212 total yards in a half against any team is unacceptable under every single set of circumstances.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#15

I agree, the cute stuff needs to stop.

Play vanilla, beat the man across from you.

That's how I like it.

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns

That's all good and well, but the Packers don't really have the talent to consistently do that. MAYBE this season they do occasionally, but in general, they have to try to find ways to manufacture pressure. Plus, that's just what Dom Capers does, and is going to do.

nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

I disagree. We have a weakness at NT and suspect ILBs but overall, I feel like we've got plenty of talent on D.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

DoddPower
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#17

I disagree. We have a weakness at NT and suspect ILBs but overall, I feel like we've got plenty of talent on D.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

If Daniels keeps playing like he did again the Jets, then I could see it. But taking the average of the first two games, I'm not convinced the Packers have the talent to line up and rush four and consistently pressure. In order for that to happen, Daniels needs to keep playing like he did against the Jets, CM3 and Peppers have to play better and be more consistent, and Perry and/or Neal need to play better, in addition to better safety play. It could happen, but that's a lot of ifs.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#18

I like the lines I hear about us trying to get cute. I saw it a few times on Sunday and it never worked. I didn't really notice the switches to the 4-3 either, but that's a good thing. When I notice too much on D, it is usually because bad things are happening.

Oddly enough, I haven't heard any analysts yet talk about at least one time when Clay was lined up right behind Julius like in a bunch or stack formation. It didn't work. The play went the other way. It's stupid.

One time Clay was lined up so far outside, that it looked like he could be covering a receiver. Now either the play call got called in wrong or that was just a ridiculous formation, because I didn't see it at all in the 2nd half.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

Maybe they sent a TE out wide.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

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bboystyle (16h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

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beast (18h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (18h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

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Zero2Cool (18h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

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