Ray Rice - New Video from inside the elevator· Page 3

DakotaT
Select Member

10 years ago

Kind of funny how some in here feel they have the right to strike anybody: men, women, or children. If you need to use your fists in anger, you have a weak mind, period.

Pack93z
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10 years ago

#22

Time for Roger to squirm some more...

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

DakotaT
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10 years ago

#23

Time for Roger to squirm some more...

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

I love it when people in powerful positions get caught lying. You could smell the bull shit from a mile away with this one.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#24

Did the video change my opinion. Not really, hitting her whether it was a knock out or not doesn't really matter.

As for the league and Goodell, they screwed the pooch over this one. The commissioner and league job is to fairly and equally apply the rules and policies agreed to by the ownership and the players. Not to make them up as they go along. Sure the 2 game suspension was probably light. But it was consistent with previous cases. Erik Walden was arrested for domestic violence and pled down to Misdemeanor. The league gave him 1 week suspension. Yes Rice's incident was not the same, but the charges and plea deal was similar. And they gave him a little harsher punishment.

The league and especially not one person, should not be making judgment calls on which domestic violence was worse or less. Let the legal system run its course and take their finding and apply the appropriate and agreed upon amount of punishment if any. If they did that, than the only grounds to complain about would be if the policy being followed was correct or needed adjustment.

Leave the rule making, and policy making and labor agreements up to ownership agreements, player CBA, competition committees. Commisioner just ensure that those rules, policies and agreements are followed and applied equally by all.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

Pack93z
Select Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#25

This is going to continue churning:

http://deadspin.com/bill-polian-disagrees-with-bill-polians-insider-opinion-1633593081

Within 20 minutes.. Polian starts and interview with a scathing answer.. for some reason the segment if cut short.. brought back on and issues a completely different take.

Smells like either ESPN or the NFL might have a hand in the altering his viewpoint.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Cheesey
Preferred Member

10 years ago

#26

The NFL kept saying it had not SEEN the video.
I believe they HAD it, knew what was on it, but purposely did not "view" it.

That way, they ARE telling the truth.

But doing it in a sly backhanded way.

Kind of like the guy that says to his wife "I'm going to the golf course", then drives there, drives through the parking lot and goes to his girlfriend's house.
He technically didn't lie. But you see my point, right?

DakotaT
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10 years ago

#27

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinski!" And people wonder why the younger generations have no respect for authority!

Fuck Goodell.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 years ago

#28

Read the link below, just focus on the words in caps. BTW, Greg Hardy is suiting up.

https://time.com/3329416/greg-hardy-nfl-domestic-violence/

I think the NFL went down a nasty slippery slope with the Personal Conduct Policy. Might want to let the law handle these punishments instead and focus on the game.

Pack93z
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10 years ago

#29

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Pack93z
Select Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#30

My biggest problem with the NFL process is two fold:

1. That Goodell is the only voice. It should be a judicial panel that reviews and hands down the punishment. Could even be an independent (truly independent, not a firm with ties to the NFL) panel. That would help ensure that issue #2 is maintained.

2. Is consistency in which the rule upon. Are we allowing due process or not? Wait for the legal system or not. And then be uniform in some manner of how severe the punishment is.

Source

Q. Why didn’t the NFL do anything to Hardy?

A. The league apparently has decided to let the legal process play out before taking any action, but Goodell has not maintained that standard for every disciplinary case.

In 2010, he suspended Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger six games (later reduced to four) after Roethlisberger was accused of sexually assaulting a Georgia college student after a night of drinking. Roethlisberger was never charged in the case, but Goodell suspended him anyway.

While Hardy and McDonald have pending cases, Rice’s legal case was resolved after he was accepted into a diversion program. The NFL strengthened the policy in August in the wake of public backlash over Rice’s two-game suspension.

Under the new policy, first-time offenders will be suspended six games, with repeat offenders subject to indefinite suspension. Players can be punished without being formally charged or convicted. League officials said each case will be addressed individually on its merits.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

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