Since69
16 years ago

The firings also lend itself to the belief that a new guy has already been set and is bringing in his own group.

"minnypacker" wrote:



That was my initial reaction as well. If so, expect a new hire almost immediately... unless our new DC is currently on the staff of a playoff team.

Nolan makes sense with a move to a 3-4.

"minnypacker" wrote:



That would be sweet on both counts.
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Pack93z
16 years ago
Isn't this same topic being discussed in another thread.. heck the basis of the first post is posted before this thread was created.. :lol:

Hmmm 😉
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
16 years ago
I liked Lionel Washington, the players seemed to respect him and give him their all. I disliked Kurt S for years and felt he was overdue for a change of scenery.

The release of all the defensive staff is somewhat refreshing, although I don't like to bask in the loss of employment by people. I do hope we get a firecracker of a DC like we had with Bates and in the good years with Fritz. I think those type of high energy DC's make the best DC's. High energy trickles down and that's one of the things I felt was wrong with our defense. Our defense resembled too much of the personality of Bob Sanders, vanilla vanilla and vanilla.
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ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago
Clearly, the time has come to do some research into the available folks who might be our new D-coordinator.

I think I'll start w/ Haslett.
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Pack93z
16 years ago

Clearly, the time has come to do some research into the available folks who might be our new D-coordinator.

I think I'll start w/ Haslett.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



Haslett won't be the choice.. Mike McCarthy and Haslett had been rumored as not working well together in New Orleans.. I don't see that being a productive match.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
16 years ago

Clearly, the time has come to do some research into the available folks who might be our new D-coordinator.

I think I'll start w/ Haslett.

"pack93z" wrote:



Haslett won't be the choice.. Mike McCarthy and Haslett had been rumored as not working well together in New Orleans.. I don't see that being a productive match.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:

I heard it differently ( could be mistaken too ) but they worked well together, but didn't like each other much. Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson proved you don't need to like your employer to be successful.
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DarkaneRules
16 years ago
Yeah look how that worked in Oakland too 😉
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porky88
16 years ago
I liked the moves actually. I think it makes sense considering the defense under McCarthy has not been playing at a high level. Struggled early in 06 and then had a run from the end of 06 through to 07, but I would argue they struggled near the end of 07 as well.

This year they were bad from start to finish.

Winston Moss stayed on because Winston Moss is a great coach. I've been saying it all along. Winston Moss will be on the short list for the defensive coordinator position along with probably Mike Nolan and maybe someone else.

My guess is McCarthy hires Winston Moss and they put together their defensive staff together. It's just a hunch I have really. I expect them to hire a lot of guys who specialize in blitzing the QB. One thing I saw was that the Packers simply didn't know how to time a blitz. I think GB is going to use some interesting packages next year.
bigfog
16 years ago
Well, we wanted it - now, we've got it. An entirely new defensive staff for the Green Bay Packers. Exciting but at the same time, I'm anxious about it. Don't understand how Moss gets to stay on yet Lionel Washington goes. That move makes no sense if you look at the production of the backers compared with the secondary.
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gergobacsi
16 years ago
A part of me says: fortune favors the bold. The other part is anxious. I hope the players and the new staff will get along, and we can see a significant improvement on the whole D.
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