Skin Color and Draft Position· Page 3

voiceofreason
Member

10 years ago

#21

He has no respect in my book. Dbag all day every day.

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beast
Select Member

10 years ago

#22

In this particular case, they have Janis' 40 time. So the stereotype of Black players being fast is kind of moot.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

Probably the best point I've seen (or at least noticed here). They have his 40 time unless the scouts put their stop watches stop because they saw a white person... so they should of know he was fast.

And I honestly struggle to believe they scouts/teams don't pick the player they think will be best... of any race.

Perhaps they were drafted higher than the 7th round not because of their skin color but because they both have the middle name of Lee. Maybe it was because they were both born in Illinois. That's it! White boys who are born in Illinois with the middle name of Lee will be drafted higher than other White WRs. It's a fact!

Originally Posted by: wpr

Always fun to learn a new "fact" 👍

Though maybe white people in Illinois need to start naming all their male children with the middle name Lee... just in case they become a WR 😄

evad04
Member

10 years ago

#23

Here's the Romanowski story from Woody Paige at denverpost.com:

According to a report in the next edition of Sports Illustrated, an unidentified "white player told the grand jury that Romanowski suggested the substances (Phentermine, a diet pill with amphetamine effects) would allow him and Romanowski to compete on a level field with African-American players. SI claims the player said Romanowski told him: "We have to go up against the black guys ... They're faster and stronger, and we have to take advantage of this. It is the only way we can compete with the black guys."

--- One can interpet black and white issues any way they wish to. I stand by what I've typed and find the idea that a white WR and RB are viewed the same as a black WR or RB to be inaccurate.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

You're talking about perception. I don't think most people would argue that the stereotype is that black athletes are more athletic, faster, etc. It's something that has definitely worked in the favor or white receivers. Black corners have said before they didn't expect Jordy to have the wheels he does.

There you have it. People have the sense that there's truth to it.

And yet, there's no scientific foundation for it. Perception is different than reality.

William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
"I'm a reasonable man, get off my case."

Cheesey
Preferred Member

10 years ago

#24

The only "stereotype" I like is the one I can play my CD's on.....LOL!

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#25

Uffda, please give up the Romanowski angle. The guy was one of the dirtiest players I've ever watched, and he was an absolute disgrace to the game. I don't care what he shot in his ass or pills he popped in order to play - he is still a disgrace to the game.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

What you think of Romanowski is tangential to the point being made. Whether he was your all time favorite player or least, it has no bearing on the subject matter.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

DakotaT
Select Member

10 years ago

#26

What you think of Romanowski is tangential to the point being made. Whether he was your all time favorite player or least, it has no bearing on the subject matter.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Well it has been mentioned that the 3 point line in basketball was introduced to allow white boys to stand a chance at playing. That's probably a better example of black men having superior athleticism to white guys.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#27

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

That is a good one. I just don't like when people delegitimize things because of personal bias.

White guys have a tough time with this issue. Nobody wants to even think there may be a shred of truth to any of this stuff. It doesn't bother me at all. It's pretty easy to see looking out at the sports world how things are. There are just not that many great white athletes...they're rare. Janis is rare regardless of race but he's really rare as a white athlete. Green Bay has more than it's fair share of white athletes.

Personally, I don't care if Janis is Black, Hispanic, Asian, or White... I want to see him produce for my favorite franchise. I just refuse to think there is no stigma that Janis faced/faces. It's there.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

wpr
Preferred Member

10 years ago

#28

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

The reason there are not many white guys in sports is that they are all sitting on their rumps playing video games and chatting on the internet while the Black guys are out playing sports.

evad04
Member

10 years ago

#29

I can't get this schmuck to respond to any of my posts.

To piggyback, uff, I don't like people legitimizing things because of personal bias -- or in your case -- from "looking out at the sports world" to see "how things are."

I feel like I need to go back to school and get a PhD in ?something scientific? just to decipher your post.

It's a little bit scary to casually throw around the idea that there are substantive genetic differences based on race. It's scientifically unfounded. Anecdotal evidence ain't gonna cut it. Nor is some appeal to the Bill Romanowski's of the world.

Again -- most people understand the perception is that there are differences based on race. People also used to think the world was flat.

*edit spelling

William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
"I'm a reasonable man, get off my case."

mi_keys
Senior Member

10 years ago

#30

It's pretty easy to see looking out at the sports world how things are. There are just not that many great white athletes...they're rare. Janis is rare regardless of race but he's really rare as a white athlete.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

In that case, you've clearly never watched hockey.

Or swimming.

Or water polo.

Or lacrosse.

Or rugby.

Or the winter olympics.

Or volleyball.

Or tennis.

Or cycling.

Or cricket.

Or fuck, even soccer.

...but yeah, if you severely limit your view of "world sport" to the NBA, NFL skill positions and the 100m dash, you totally have a point.

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