A decade? Hoping that was hyperbole.

I greatly admire what Denver did this offseason... they were dominant on offense all year. Setting records. D wasn't good enough...so what do they do? Address the defense with studs. You left out TJ Ward. Denver realizes Peyton is near the end.

Rodgers end could come on any given play in any given game. I said it in another post but Packer fan has become complacent. Taking things for granted. The window is NOW and always is just NOW despite the belief to the contrary. I know I would gladly trade a SB win for a few years of downtime. It sure beats watching a string of one and dones and a whole bunch of bad defense year after year.

To me it's kind of like the person who goes through school and gets A's and B's and tells themselves that that's good enough when if they really went for it they could've been straight A's. Everyone is wired differently. Too many fans and our org on the whole is satisfied with being above average when we have the main tool (12) to hoist our namesake's trophy many times. ...and the better idea is to shoot for long term above average? Just a different mindset.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Why is it that the Packers can pay Rodgers and Matthews and Nelson and a host of other guys and yet fans think they can stay competitive but as soon as Seattle and San Fran have to pay their QBs they are going to fall apart.

Originally Posted by: sschind 

Last year the Seahawks had the following starters and regular contributors (e.g. nickel backs) on their rookie contracts:
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Originally Posted by: mi_keys 

I remember back when Wolf fired Infante. Infante had said something like "a few plays here and there and we would have won XYZ." Wolf said something like "I don't want people who distinguish between good reasons and bad reasons for losing. I want people who find failing to dominate as never good enough."

I want a team that can find a "reasonable" justification for why they fall short or why they can't dominate. I don't want a team that points to injuries, or bad calls, or salary caps, or trades not available, or "reality," or "any given Sunday" or any of that. A want a team that says, "We didn't get it done. We didn't dominate. That's unacceptable. We just aren't close to good enough yet. Period."

Anything else is just an excuse.

Originally Posted by: Wade 

This beautiful post won't compute to the majority of posters on this forum but it is spot on.

Packer fan is fat dumb and happy with above average and that is sickening. The overwhelming support for us to remain status quo is nauseating.

You play sports to WIN. Not winning your final game of every season is LOSING. You can't be happy with that... you should be motivated beyond belief to get to the point where you do win your last game.

Alas, excuse after excuse is given here... long term success is more important, it's too hard winning a SB, we'll just hope and pray better teams like Seattle suffer down the road, injuries, I love buying my divisional championship gear so I can brag to my divisional rival buddies.

The above are people who have NOTHING in common with what this team is known for...the rich history cemented during the Lombardi years. Winning is the ONLY thing. What a new breed of organization and fan in 2014. Pitiful,

What fan says I like the way it is right now? Have any of you watched the games the last several years? You like watching a defense suck every Sunday and in the playoffs? Anyone comfortable and okay with losing especially the way we've been doing is not recognizable to how I view the reason we have sports in the first place.

This is not the self esteem movement where everything is great and okay where every kid gets a prize just for participating. This is about winning and losing and there are way too many Packers fans far too comfortable watching a non winning product calling it a successful product. Soon, there'll be people posting TT's REGULAR SEASON RECORD from the last several years pointing to it as validation of how "successful" we've been. OR, the number of playoff appearances. What won't be posted is that we've won ONE playoff game in the Ted Thompson era outside of our SB run. ONE... Ponder is a gametime scratch and Joe Webb has to play at Lambeau...we win a very ugly game. That's it...the mighty Packers with Aaron Rodgers have won ONE playoff game outside of our playoff run. That is pathetic and inexcusable.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

None of us are playing this sport lol we are watching it. I don't know about you but I don't derive any personal glory from the Packers winning. I'm watching this for entertainment, I am significantly more entertained when they win the Superbowl but all this talk of "striving for greatness" and "being content" just sounds like a bunch of hot air. If you can't enjoy the game just because your team didn't win it all in any given year then I think you are probably taking it all a bit too seriously. It's not "sickening" or "nauseating" for people to not get depressed because a professional sports team lost their last game of the season, it's normal.

If the Packers over Ted Thompson tenure have not been a successful product then there really isn't any football team a person can follow that has been a successful product. If that's unacceptable then I guess we should all just give up on the NFL.

Every single fan WANTS this team to be good enough to win the Superbowl but it doesn't make you a better fan just because you get more pissy than other fans when they don't. Or that you didn't get any enjoyment out of being a fan when they didn't win.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 

Packer fan is fat dumb and happy with above average and that is sickening. The overwhelming support for us to remain status quo is nauseating.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Speak for yourself bubba, I ain't no fatty!! 😲

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool