Tex,
To start with your comment regarding civility and logic slipping, the asshole comments have everything to do with you repeatedly referring to gays as abominations, evil, perversions and otherwise denigrating an entire group of people based an absolute fuck all but for a couple lines cherry picked from a book you don't otherwise seem to know or understand. You sling shit at them and then act incredulous that you get shit thrown back you're way. As for the logic, that's rich as you haven't used a shred of logic I this entire discussion, just baseless assertion after baseless assertion, often in the face of evidence to the contrary.
And speaking of baseless assertions, you continue the line that virtually everyone ever has hated homosexuality. Despite zero evidence and examples to the contrary. But even if that is the case, the majority of societies once discriminated against women. Is it arrogant to give women equal rights/treatment? Did doing so tear down society? No.
The majority of people once thought the world was flat. They were objectively wrong. A majority of people once thought the world was the center of the universe. They were objectively wrong. Just because a majority believed something, doesn't make it so.
And ironically, you lambast us for arrogance when you keep bleating on and on about how all we need to stay the best is maintain the status quo, as if everything has already been perfected and no one can ever catch us. We didn't get to be the best country in the world by accepting the status quo and that line of thinking will ultimately end up relegating us to being second tier behind our competitors.
To that point, your aversion to change for the sake of aversion to change is just as nonsensical as the morons that pedal change for the sake of change. I get the impression you assume that if we give gays equal rights we have to accept every other change left-leaning politicians push. If that's the case you couldn't be anymore wrong. Judge this issue on its own. You bang on about dragging this country down. What the flying fuck is treating gays equally going to do to damage the country?
On the black comment, the only point was that they were both classes of people that have been discriminated against. Not to the same degree, but they both have been. Who sticks there hand up and volunteers for discrimination?
The point about found in nature is effectively irrelevant to whether or not homosexuality is okay. It was just yet opportunity to point out a factual inaccuracy of yours.
And on your question about latent homosexuality, if you meant to imply homosexuality could be reversed, you're wrong. If you mean intense societal pressures can make someone behave utterly contrary to their nature, that is true. Religious, familial and societal pressures do cause gay people to try god act straight. Look at someone who gets married, has kids, and then finally comes out as gay. You don't see that happen the other way around. It can also be damaging to the individual. At its worst, conversion therapy, or pray away the gay camps, has been shown to be completely ineffectual in changing underlying homosexual attractions. It has led to cases of depression and suicide. So ultimately, not only is the viewpoint that you can change an individual's sexuality wrong, it's dangerous. You end up fucking people in the head. For levity's sake, there's a particularly funny South Park episode on this.
To back out to a high level view, at its most rudimentary, my stance holds that homosexuals are human beings and all human beings deserve equal treatment. Hell, our country's Declaration of Independence starts off with that premise.
The holding of your viewpoint has led discrimination against homosexuals. It's divided families. It's led to bullshit therapy that's ultimately only ever capable of causing depression and suicide. It's led to millions if dollars wasted in legal costs. It's led to senseless assaults. And for what end? What the hell do you or anyone else in this country get for it? What benefit outweighs those costs?
I challenged you earlier to this, but name one valid, logical reason why homosexuals should be the subject of the bile, the slander, and the discrimination that your ilk throws at them.
I won't hold my breath waiting for it.
Born and bred a cheesehead