What we've learned: Packers' defense· Page 2

Dulak
Veteran Member

11 years ago

No. We're going to get blown off the LoS in short yardage.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Like nerdmann said - a bit 'concerned' weather teams will man handle our line. I like our players but wondering if they will be too light to clog up the middle in the run game and to stop their front line.

To be honest - Im looking forward to see how they do; be a nice change - and I concur with everyone else. Enough of the 3 man rushes against 5-6 defenders. It gets us nowhere and any good QB with all the time in the world in the pocket can hit a open guy eventually.

4 man rushes work much better - you see teams in their base 4-3 team apart teams.

I often see us with 3-20+ and go rush 3 and they hit the 1st down. I dont see that happening with decent pressure; and 3 guys doesnt count.

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: Dulak

I really don't get the worry about weight, look at other 3-4 teams. Having 3 330lb players on the line is abnormal and we're about the only team that did it. In the end it'll come down to talent more than weight. Our Raji/Pickett/Jolly line last year sucked most of the time and for all the credit Jolly is getting he was barely getting 20 snaps a game early in the year.

I feel a lot better about a Jones/Raji/Daniels or Boyd/Raji/Daniels line than what we had last year. Jones is really the question mark but I actually really liked what I saw out of Boyd last year. Daniels for whatever reason gets thought of as small but the dudes over 300lb and isn't someone I see being manhandled or "blown off the LOS" very often.

StoicFire
Member

11 years ago

#13

...I feel a lot better about a Jones/Raji/Daniels or Boyd/Raji/Daniels line than what we had last year. Jones is really the question mark but I actually really liked what I saw out of Boyd last year. Daniels for whatever reason gets thought of as small but the dudes over 300lb and isn't someone I see being manhandled or "blown off the LOS" very often.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

I think a Boyd/Raji/Daniels line would be great. I'm still having trouble seeing Jones as much of a two-gapper, but would love to be proven wrong. I worried about him being in the base defense as a down-lineman at first because of his size, but now I'm starting to think that it won't be as much of an issue. I don't think opposing O-lines will be able focus attention to moving him off the line if Peppers or Matthews (or even Neal) is also in the neighborhood, so I'm feeling optimistic about the line and crossing my fingers for good health!

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DarkaneRules
Veteran Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#14

You are right Stoic. Jones just hasn't proven himself in that position yet. He is a beast in individual drills though. Just have to find the right place for him on the field to be successful.

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texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#15

I was one of the first to advocate having a smaller more mobile D-Line - tacklers instead of space occupiers. Hell yeah, we are better off that way. The team stunk against the run with two or three of those "tubbos" in there. I'd like to see not even one - a third mobile athletic 290-300 pounder instead of Raji in the base D. As for Grady Jackson, I haven't seen ANY of last year's 330+ pounders show near the run-stopping ability that Jackson showed. If somebody did, I'd be for using him, but that's unlikely.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Pickett got old, and Jolly got hurt.

That's because they are old and out of football shape. Not because they are big. They started the year off stuffing the run great.

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