To you, in comparison to other offenses and their suspensions.. was it enough? Too much?

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Mike Neal got four game suspension for using Aderall for attention deficit disorder.

Ray Rice ASSAULTED someone and it was recorded via video. And this someone was a woman. He gets two games?

What Adam Silver did to Donald Sterling with the lifetime ban for just saying some stupid comments ... the NFL looks weak in comparison.

It should have been an 8 game suspension. Maybe first eight games or alternate.

This also plays right into my biggest gripe about the Sterling crap. No one said peep about his adultery. Most just accepted that's just what happens. That still pisses me off. The NBA didn't ban him for cheating on his wife, nope, they banned him because he said he didn't want his black mistress hanging around black guys and taking pictures with them. Truly a twisted society.

Neal gets four games for trying to handle ADD and Rice gets two games for physically assaulting his fiance.



btw, moved this to Packers because i mentioned Mike Neal and because.

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It seems kind of weak compared to the length of suspensions for other offenses especially considering it's not just a he said she said thing there's an actual video of it and the guy admitting to it.

I mean knocking a woman unconscious in an elevator by hitting her... That's way worse than snorting some adderall to get amped up for a game or smoking some weed during the offseason.

Heard one of the "talking head" ESPN guys not defending Rice, but saying the video didn't actually show him hitting the lady, and that he might have been defending himself, whatever, bottom line she was knocked out.

Rice should be suspended, for a minimum of 8 games, I would have made it a year, then let him appeal.

Not good PR for the NFL Shield.

Ravens should take control of this and suspend him themselves, but that's not going to happen.

I still think suspensions for incidents not directly relating to the playing of the game are going to seem a bit less simply because some people still have the idea that it's really none of the leagues business what a player does off the field in the off season.

Aderall is a banned substance linked in many minds with PEDs which are designed to give players an unfair advantage over their competitors. This hurts not only the image of the NFL but the integrity of the game itself. It is seen as cheating and cheaters are usually looked down upon. While beating your wife or girlfriend may be the worse infraction it does not give a player and advantage over his peers so, while still being a blot on the NFL image it is not seen as detrimental to the actual playing of the game itself.

Obviously certain acts are so egregious they demand immediate and intense sanctions but others, though despicable, may be treated less severely simply because they do infringe on a players private lives where some people think the employer (the league) has no business being. Not that I am comparing the two but it would be rare for a factory worker to be fired or suspended for beating his wife.

I am biased...to me domestic violence is a form of bullying which should be punishablke by death. So no, I don't think two games is enough.

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It matters not what the victim has to say in the way of trying to lessen the punishment of the offender. I don't know how domestic violence laws work in other states but here in Texas what the victim has to say about what happened has no bearing on the guy going to jail. IE: If the cops show up at a house and a woman has marks on her and she is pleading with the officer that her husband didn't do it, the guy is still going to jail in most cases as the law doesn't allow for the victim to not press charges.

Ray Rice should've been banned for life. Pete Rose gambled on his own team and got banned for life. Ray Rice did something that we all could see. There it was in black and white. Mike Vick was into dogfighting and his situation was so much more talked about than this. I realize his was a pattern. We don't know if Ray Rice has this pattern. Still, I think assaulting a human being is untold times worse than fighting dogs. Ray Rice should have a much bigger stigma than Mike Vick but he doesn't.

A bizarre world we live in. Shame on Goodell for listening to the wishes of Ray Rice's wife regardless of what they were. Of course, she wants that money a flowin' and her husband to not be punished. That is the usual behavior of victims of violence...to excuse the abuser. It is horrifying to hear a person in Goodell's role use the victim's wishes as justification for a light punishment. It shows he has no concept of domestic violence and just enabled it as a leser crime than taking a PED or smoking dope.

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The league is not the criminal justice system. If you need just punishment, the courts are responsible for that. It isn't the NFLs responsibility.

The responsibility they have is to hold players accountable for getting into trouble off the field due to their contractual obligations.

An off field incident doesn't have a sliding scale of punishment fits the crime. It doesn't matter if he is suspected of hitting his fiance. Off field trouble is off field trouble.

If a player cheats for a game advantage by taking a banned substance or getting into trouble multiple times, they will face a stiffer punishment than a player who only got into trouble once.

That isn't a statement of what is worse. Smoking weed or beating a woman. It is a statement of get into trouble once, you get punished. Get into trouble more often, you get punished more.


If you get into legal trouble, but don't end up getting convicted of anything, do you get disciplined by your place of employment?

I couldn't care less what the NFL does to Rice, but his fiance should press charges. If she doesn't, there is nothing anyone can do about it. Missing even a whole season wouldn't be justice for that. A conviction in a court of law is the only thing that would do that for me.

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Dex, I'm not sure that is how this works in the state in which the incident happened. In Texas, the woman has no choice...she can't decide that...it's decided for her to prevent the very thing Goodell claims he was influenced by. Most victims of domestic violence enable the behavior and will fight like crazy to keep the man who abused them criminally uncharged.

The NFL has a personal conduct policy which I think is a good thing. Domestic abuse should be way up there on the list of no no's. Where is dog fighting on the scale? It ain't worse than domestic violence against women but it was punished much more severely. That ain't right to say animal abuse is worse than abuse to humans...and by that I'm not saying animal abuse is no big deal, but relative to domestic violence it is.

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