Mucky Tundra
10 years ago

Early in his career at Southern Miss, Khyri Thornton sometime took plays off. Thornton brought more energy in 2013, but now will have to kick things up a notch to turn heads in Green Bay.

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uffda udfa
10 years ago
Of all the draft picks, this one gives me the worst feeling of being a bust.
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play2win
10 years ago
I can understand that one uffda. I felt like that too with this out of nowhere pick in R3. But, I'm excited to see what it was that made Thompson go so high for him. If he's anything on par with another out of left field selection like Nick Collins in terms of impact, I'll be thrilled.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2005/draft/players/78801.html 

Projected UDFA and Ted took him R2...

Thornton seems to have the size and motor to step right in and make a positive impact. I'm hoping to see just that.
beast
10 years ago
Players from teams that win a lot seem to get over rated by fans and draft "experts" (which neither really are held responsible for their choices after the draft). While players from poor teams get under rated. And Thornton is coming from a team where they've won 1 game in two years and watching their defense he jumped out compared to the rest. And seems like he was doubled more often and the guy the offense was trying to avoid.

His style reminded me of Josh Boyd style but more explosiveness and potential. Also watching Thornton seems like he was able to break into the backfield a number of times trying to chase the RB down but didn't quite have the speed to chase the RB down and his team didn't set the corner so the RB got some yardage but he forces the RB to go way around. Any pro team should do a heck of a lot better having someone on the outside to push them back in (or make the tackle if they stay out).
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uffda udfa
10 years ago

I can understand that one uffda. I felt like that too with this out of nowhere pick in R3. But, I'm excited to see what it was that made Thompson go so high for him. If he's anything on par with another out of left field selection like Nick Collins in terms of impact, I'll be thrilled.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2005/draft/players/78801.html 

Projected UDFA and Ted took him R2...

Thornton seems to have the size and motor to step right in and make a positive impact. I'm hoping to see just that.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Would've loved to see a date on that piece from SI. Obviously, it was grafted to the fact the Packers already picked him.

Many prospects are late risers or late fallers. Look at David Yankey this year. At one point touted as a 1st round pick... Vikes got him in the 5th round.

http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/goingdeep/2014/04/patriots_mock_draft_60_david_y.html 

In reality, where a guy is picked really doesn't matter too much. Our all time leading WR was selected in the 7th round, and the QB who won the most SB's was drafted in the 17th. I just hope this surprising 3rd round selection justifies or outperforms his draft status.
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play2win
10 years ago
Yeah, it is all relative.

What I am looking forward to is seeing what Thornton does with exponentially better talent around him. He was on a very bad team. Now, Thornton will be seeing more one on one, more than he may have ever seen, and I would expect he could turn in some decent numbers.

That was a 2005 draft profile from SI on Collins. They would not augment it after the fact. Interesting he had a 3.21 grade. Turns into one of the best Pro Bowl Safeties in the NFL. I'm hoping Thornton can develop into a solid DT for the Packers, and become one of those real steals out of nowhere akin to Collins.

Man, it sure would be fun to somehow know where Ted could have gotten both players, had he not jumped R2 and R3... They only become steals or great picks if they overwhelmingly produce.
Zero2Cool
10 years ago
A little fact about the Collins pick. The Ravens called saying good pick and that they were going to take him with their next pick.
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play2win
10 years ago

A little fact about the Collins pick. The Ravens called saying good pick and that they were going to take him with their next pick.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah, while SI had him projected UDFA, draftscout had him R3-R4.

Goes to show how all over the map draft info can be for fan consumption. I remember reading that about the Ravens Z2C.

And, since this is about Thornton, I heard he was moving up on a lot of draft boards.
DakotaT
10 years ago

Yeah, while SI had him projected UDFA, draftscout had him R3-R4.

Goes to show how all over the map draft info can be for fan consumption. I remember reading that about the Ravens Z2C.

And, since this is about Thornton, I heard he was moving up on a lot of draft boards.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Which is why those folks that overreacted like drama queens at the selection of Thornton made me laugh. This pick reminded me of the Mike Neal pick, the difference is that Thornton is a legitimate big man, whereas Mike Neal is a beefed up smaller guy. Whether Neal can ever truly play OLB remains to be seen, but that is another discussion.
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play2win
10 years ago

Which is why those folks that overreacted like drama queens at the selection of Thornton made me laugh. This pick reminded me of the Mike Neal pick, the difference is that Thornton is a legitimate big man, whereas Mike Neal is a beefed up smaller guy. Whether Neal can ever truly play OLB remains to be seen, but that is another discussion.

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Yeah. Hearing about his hand use on the line to attack, then seeing it on video, was pretty much all I needed. The guy looks like a fierce defender on the line. Just what we needed to add there. And, he has great size and speed. I could really give a shit what his stats were after that, as he was surrounded by a bunch of hacks.

It could be really fun to see this kid work in a front 7 with the likes of Peppers, Raji, Daniels, Matthews and any of the other players we've added these past two or three years. This could be really freaking good.

Speed cannot be underrated, especially there.
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