DakotaT
11 years ago

All Tramon Williams is good for is shutting down an opponent's top WR... Yeah, good for nothing. I thought maybe you might have watched some games uddfa...

WTF???

Really, picking on Tramon is shear stupidity.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Not really, he is soft in tackling - and the last time I checked, a corner is a defensive player who is required to tackle. I'll give you that he has played through injuries, but a poor tackler is a liability on a defense.
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DarkaneRules
11 years ago
Not the worst tackler, not the best. Somewhere in between. The only thing I don't get is letting him go this season. Now is not the time. Another good season from Haywood...we'll see then.
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DakotaT
11 years ago

Then why are you posting on this thread?

WPR started the thread and said almost the exact same thing in his 1st post,let me say it again, NOBODY HAS A CLUE, this thread is IS ALL IN FUN, just because you don't want to participate now doesn't mean you have to poo poo anyone who does.

Back to name calling, knew you couldn't hold out very long.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



First of all, I haven't poo pooed on anything in this thread. And secondly, you sure do enjoy throwing in your little shots, and then falling back pouting like you're some kind of a victim. You're just a hypocrite, Buckeye - and you enjoy the banter as much as anybody else. Your frustration lies in the fact that you are overmatched by several members of PH.

Also, threads evolve into other things all the time, much to the chagrin of the posting Nazi, WPR.
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steveishere
11 years ago

Not the worst tackler, not the best. Somewhere in between. The only thing I don't get is letting him go this season. Now is not the time. Another good season from Haywood...we'll see then.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



I agree, he's a bad tackler at times but he's also a good aggressive tackler at times. It's just that nobody bothers to point it out when he is good. He's not really worth 9m or whatever he's getting but until other guys step up and show some consistency he's a starting calibre player on this team and we aren't really hurting for money atm.
uffda udfa
11 years ago
Tramon should've been cut for this play alone... you do NOT belong in the NFL if you do what he does here.



Would love to find some AD clips where he pretends to try and tackle AD. Just embarrassing.
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11 years ago

I love the yearly will he or wont he regarding Bush. Hey... he was pretty helpful in the Super Bowl guys. Hate to say it but he may be one of the most valuable players on this team from a depth standpoint. *hides in corner*

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



SUPER BOWL??? I couldn't care less what Bush did in the SB when it comes to the 2014 team. Aaron was in the SB and if he wasn't one of the 53 best I would say dump him too.

Now keep in mind I have Mr Bush on my final 53 but it has nothing to do with the SB.
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luigis
11 years ago
My 2 cents:

Tramon is an all-time fav player of mine but I accept his play has declined in the last seasons.

Bush has never, ever done anything good as a CB, except the SB play so it's a statistical anomaly.

Our secondary is best when we have some pass rush and we've been missing that a lot specially with Clay not at 100%.

It's clear that our best CB is Shields but I'm worried about the 2nd CB position. I have hopes in House becoming our 2nd CB this season. Tramon can grab the receiver I mean slot position and Hayward will be a decent nickel back.

I like House more than Hayward and I'm probably wrong because nobody thinks the same, those stupid gut feelings one has.




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play2win
11 years ago

I have watched some games... I'll gladly let a guy who tackles like Deion Sanders who doesn't cover anything like him walk for 9.5 million. Yes, I will.

You want a full 53 from me right now? LOL. As vain as you believe I am about my knowledge/intelligence I'm way too smart to even begin to think I know what our 53 will look like. I'll gladly post you my thoughts when I see these guys in the pre-season. You're basically asking me for a mock draft. I don't do those either. Waste of time and energy.

Would love to see Bush and Williams gone to free up more cap money to extend Jordy and Randall. I will not miss one guy's inability to tackle a sandwich and the other guy's inability to contribute on defense in anything but eclipse like regularity.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I would have to say I was out of line with my response to you. My apologies uffs.

Since this thread was pretty much established in the spirit of a fun exercise, I think it should be just that, with all ideas out on the table. Not sure what I was thinking there, but I was wrong. I like Tramon Williams, and yeah, I have seen him blow some coverages. They all do at some point in games. I guess we just have different ideas about how good he really is. He is the veteran leader of this secondary. That is why I don't want us to get rid of him. Plus, I think he will play better with a more sound pass rush.

Personally, we've spent time on here calling for Capers head, etc., and I think he now has most of the players he needs to make this a very effective defense. We shall see. Lots of time left before the season starts.

It ought to be interesting to see how Ted calls his final 53 in a few months.

I have always liked House, and have really just wished he could stay healthy and perform at a high level. During last year's preseason he looked like a beast, and was really playing some great coverage. Not sure why he fell off like he did.

Bush, he's a polarizing player for sure. His only real saving grace is his punt and kick off coverage, and a veteran knowledge of the system as a backup DB.

Tramon Williams has indeed shown some ups and downs the last couple of seasons. I'm hoping for more ups from him this year.

Hayward, man, what a rookie year he had. Really like what he brings to our secondary. He's the ball hawk. For sure.

Hyde. What can we say? He showed some pretty damn good play for a rookie last season. Missed some coverages, but his work at the line of scrimmage in getting to the QB and stopping the run was just phenomenal.

Jumal Rolle looks like he has some promise. Again, kind of a ball hawk presence based on his work in college at Catawba where he had 6 INTs. A practice squad guy who has an opportunity to crack the lineup.

Demetri Goodson is looking better and better to me from the stuff I've read. Has a project like quality to him now, but who knows? Maybe he is able to contribute sooner than we might expect. I think he makes the roster just to protect him, as it seems he would probably be snatched from the PS if he were put there.
11 years ago

Tramon should've been cut for this play alone... you do NOT belong in the NFL if you do what he does here.



Would love to find some AD clips where he pretends to try and tackle AD. Just embarrassing.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Tramon Williams. What a crappy tackler


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DakotaT
11 years ago

Tramon Williams. What a crappy tackler

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 



Now show a hit like that one that isn't ancient history, like post shoulder injury. Then I'll join you in your outrage.
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