buckeyepackfan
10 years ago

What if Clinton-Dix turns out to be another Hawk?

The more I read and the more I hear what people are saying about Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix, you could insert A.J. Hawk and the quotes would fit.


I'm convinced Clinton-Dix won't earn a starting position until halfway through the season at best. I'm not worried about his 4.6 speed because that's what nearly all safeties are. He misses a lot of tackles and he's not a solid hitter like Calvin Pryor.

I would have rather seen my 49ers trade happen to get the Packers more picks in 2 and 3.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'll be happy as hell if Dix only misses 2 games the next 8 years and becomes The Packers all -time leading tackler.

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DoddPower
10 years ago

I read somewhere that GB was on the phone with HCD for quite a while before their pick even came up. I have no doubt that was their guy.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



And I can completely understand why. There might have been some similarly ranked players, but I don't see any that were far and away better players than Ha Ha. Not only do the Packers get potentially the BPA, they also fill a huge need. That's a nice night's work, imo. Will a player drafted after Ha Ha ultimately be a better player? Probably. That's usually how it works. But that doesn't make it a bad pick. There will also be several players that are ultimately worse, imo.

Deone Bucannon would have been a nice pick too, but he was drafted too early. That was a need pick. I'd be more surprised if he turned into a really good player than Ha Ha. Stick with the BPA philosophy, Ted!
play2win
10 years ago

I have zero faith that Pryor will be able to stay healthy in the NFL, especially if he played for the Packers. I'm not disappointed about not getting him, at all. Above all, a team needs its players to be available. I seriously question how available Pryor will be, but anything can happen.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Relatively short at 5-11. Slow. Lacking in ball skills and coverage. Really a one dimensional hitter. Glad we got CD instead.

I read Thompson's comments somewhere this morning on Pryor and his style of play as a hitter, and he said he was done with those types of players.
Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
So what is the best and worst case scenario with Ha-Ha and his career?
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play2win
10 years ago

And I can completely understand why. There might have been some similarly ranked players, but I don't see any that were far and away better players than Ha Ha. Not only do the Packers get potentially the BPA, they also fill a huge need. That's a nice night's work, imo. Will a player drafted after Ha Ha ultimately be a better player? Probably. That's usually how it works. But that doesn't make it a bad pick. There will also be several players that are ultimately worse, imo.

Deone Bucannon would have been a nice pick too, but he was drafted too early. That was a need pick. I'd be more surprised if he turned into a really good player than Ha Ha. Stick with the BPA philosophy, Ted!

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



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play2win
10 years ago

So what is the best and worst case scenario with Ha-Ha and his career?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Best case we win 14 Super Bowls during his 14 year career. Worst case, we lose him in a marijuana cafe on our first trip to Seattle...
Mucky Tundra
10 years ago

Best case we win 14 Super Bowls during his 14 year career. Worst case, we lose him in a marijuana cafe on our first trip to Seattle...

Originally Posted by: play2win 



😆

Okay let me rephrase that: who does he compare to in a worst case scenario and in a best case scenario?

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Dulak
10 years ago

I'll be happy as hell if Dix only misses 2 games the next 8 years and becomes The Packers all -time leading tackler.

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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Ha good one ... funny thing is - last season since Ive been watching hawk IMO was his best year - slimmer and faster and got to the ball quicker and with lots of our LBers out he had to step up and did. Im actually a fan of hawk since last year.

buckeyepackfan
10 years ago

Ha good one ... funny thing is - last season since Ive been watching hawk IMO was his best year - slimmer and faster and got to the ball quicker and with lots of our LBers out he had to step up and did. Im actually a fan of hawk since last year.

Originally Posted by: Dulak 



I still think Ted drafted Barrington last year to replace Hawk. When Hawk took the pay cut, His base salary dropped for 2013 and 2014, but it was turned into "guaranteed' money.

That tells me Ted wanted Hawk around last year and this year to let barrington develope.

barrington getting injured might have slowed the process, only time will tell.

Will be interesting to see if Ted takes one of the ILB's left, with a 3rd or 4th rnd pick.
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RainX
10 years ago
The Dix pick is fine. Fills a need and one of the best players still on the board at the time. I would have been livid had we taken Johnny Flatball given Aaron is only 30 and there is zero guarantee he would perform better than Flynn for six games if Aaron would miss a significant stretch again. I was fine with Sherman passing on trading up back in 03 and 04 to get 1st pound "prospects" like Rex Grossmman, Kyle Boller, and JP Losman too to find Favre's successor.

People also tend to forget Nick Collins didn't develop into a Top 10 safety until probably year 3 and 4. He had a decent rookie year in 05 but had pretty significant sophmore slump in 2006. Burnett has had zero help since Nick's career ended in 2011. Thompson tried to fill the void with mid round prospects in Jennings and McMillan but both fell flat. The fact Burnett can move back to his natural SS position full time now and we can plug in a talented rookie prospect in Dix instead of a converted corner in Micah Hyde or hoping Sean Richardson's neck doesn't give out is a huge Boon for our secondary. We've still got three more day two picks to fill some other holes and Thompson can draft a developmental QB on day three if he sees one worth taking. If Peppers and Matthews can generate a consistent pass rush we've been lacking since our Super Bowl run, that alone is going to make our secondary that much better in coverage and Dix has the size needed to help in run support.
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