Misery loves company! Welcome, Wade. 😆

I don't think Ha Ha was unhappy to be a Packer, I think he was unhappy he went at 21 when he was expecting to go higher...or, maybe, he can't stand Eddie Lacy despite what he's said about him. 🤔

In any case, it's nice to have another 1st rounder in TitleTown to dissect and discuss. Most fans and especially the brass seems happy which is always nice. Some years, actually, many years, you don't come away with the sense the org is thrilled with their 1st rounder. Not this year. It reminds me of the Raji/Matthews picks... the staff was wound up that year. Let's hope they're right... as you don't usually see that kind of emotion out of that draft room.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

What if Clinton-Dix turns out to be another Hawk?

The more I read and the more I hear what people are saying about Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix, you could insert A.J. Hawk and the quotes would fit.


I'm convinced Clinton-Dix won't earn a starting position until halfway through the season at best. I'm not worried about his 4.6 speed because that's what nearly all safeties are. He misses a lot of tackles and he's not a solid hitter like Calvin Pryor.

I would have rather seen my 49ers trade happen to get the Packers more picks in 2 and 3.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

What if Clinton-Dix turns out to be another Hawk?

The more I read and the more I hear what people are saying about Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix, you could insert A.J. Hawk and the quotes would fit.


I'm convinced Clinton-Dix won't earn a starting position until halfway through the season at best. I'm not worried about his 4.6 speed because that's what nearly all safeties are. He misses a lot of tackles and he's not a solid hitter like Calvin Pryor.

I would have rather seen my 49ers trade happen to get the Packers more picks in 2 and 3.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

What if Clinton-Dix turns out to be another Hawk?

The more I read and the more I hear what people are saying about Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix, you could insert A.J. Hawk and the quotes would fit.


I'm convinced Clinton-Dix won't earn a starting position until halfway through the season at best. I'm not worried about his 4.6 speed because that's what nearly all safeties are. He misses a lot of tackles and he's not a solid hitter like Calvin Pryor.

I would have rather seen my 49ers trade happen to get the Packers more picks in 2 and 3.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Yes, but what if one doesn't believe HaHa is the safety equivalent of Hawk. I explicitly said I don't consider the quality the same.

IMO, if there is a comparison quality-wise, HaHa offers less than Hawk, but a bit more than George Teague.

IMO, if you are going to draft a safety in the first, you need to think he will be at least as good as Nick Collins (who wasn't drafted in the first, by the way).

And, by the way, Collins was not the Collins we're trying to replace in year one OR year two. He took a lot of bad angles, had a number of "communication issues". Because of his speed, he was able to recover from some of them.

Dix does not have that speed.

Dix will improve the defense at safety right out of the box, no question. So would about ten of the safeties in this draft.

If you buy a new $30,000 hybrid car, you're going to improve on the gas-guzzling clunker in your garage.

But if you spend $80,000 to buy that car, you're going to regret the other things you could have done with the extra $50,000.

Originally Posted by: Wade