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10 years ago


Finley- No
ALL THOSE WR? Nelson- No Cobb- No Jones- No. Jennings did. Bulaga- No.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



This does highlight how worthless this metric is in a vacuum. In 2011 and 2013 (Jordy's last two non-injury seasons), he went over 1,200 and 1,300 yards and caught 15 and 8 touchdowns respectively.

In 2011, Jennings went with 949 yards and 9 touchdowns. They probably should've been swapped.

Jordy's played at a pro bowl level. He just isn't technically a "pro bowler."

Edit: fixed the quote box
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packerfanoutwest
10 years ago

Rick Spielman has drafted more Pro Bowlers for Vikings than Ted Thompson has for Packers.

What the hell ...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

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10 years ago
Just so you know mi, I am not saying Jordy is not worthy of being a PBer. My recent post was saying he didn't get the "honor".

Look at all the years that Marco Rivera played at an exceptional level before he was giving the chance.

edit- I was wondering when I gave that quote. I agree with it just didn't remember when I said it.
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steveishere
10 years ago

Just so you know mi, I am not saying Jordy is not worthy of being a PBer. My recent post was saying he didn't get the "honor".

Look at all the years that Marco Rivera played at an exceptional level before he was giving the chance.

edit- I was wondering when I gave that quote. I agree with it just didn't remember when I said it.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



yeah, the thing with Jordy though is I believe he was one of the main alternates he just didn't have enough people ahead of him drop out to become a "pro bowler" like the Vikings did with their last 2 guys (Kalil and Rudolph). That's why it's stupid to use pro bowls to try and make some sort of comparison.
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mi_keys
10 years ago

Just so you know mi, I am not saying Jordy is not worthy of being a PBer. My recent post was saying he didn't get the "honor".

Look at all the years that Marco Rivera played at an exceptional level before he was giving the chance.

edit- I was wondering when I gave that quote. I agree with it just didn't remember when I said it.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Oh I know, you were simply answering Nerd's question on those players and whether they'd gone.

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nerdmann
10 years ago

Oh I know, you were simply answering Nerd's question on those players and whether they'd gone.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



I'd say Bulaga and Sitton are at that level too.

We got guys.
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10 years ago
A team with more pro bowlers than wins is a team that doesn't play selflessly.
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mi_keys
10 years ago

I'd say Bulaga and Sitton are at that level too.

We got guys.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Right. Nelson was just, in my opinion, the most glaring omission. Sitton went in 2012. Bulaga has the potential to be a pro bowl player if he could stay healthy and take the next step forward. Cobb definitely has pro bowl potential.

And even if some of these guys don't, falling just short of being a pro bowl player means you are still a very good player. If you had 22 starters, each of whom were just short of making the pro bowl, you'd have a Super Bowl contending team.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Right. Nelson was just, in my opinion, the most glaring omission. Sitton went in 2012. Bulaga has the potential to be a pro bowl player if he could stay healthy and take the next step forward. Cobb definitely has pro bowl potential.

And even if some of these guys don't, falling just short of being a pro bowl player means you are still a very good player. If you had 22 starters, each of whom were just short of making the pro bowl, you'd have a Super Bowl contending team.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



So this is just Spielman's two years as GM? I think he's been in their front office for awhile in varying capacities. I kept thinking he's been around almost as long as Ted.
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There is a big difference between being player personnel director and being the GM.


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