Cowher didnt want to coach Brett?? ·

longtimefan
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16 years ago

Not sure how true this is

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/83432-sources-cowher-didnt-want-to-coach-favre?eref=fromSI

Talks between the Jets and Cowher never advanced past the preliminary stage.

Sources close to Cowher said he did not want to have Favre as his quarterback, and that he also wanted to bring in people he was familiar with to handle personnel.

A source familiar with Cowher's thinking said before last night's decision came down that the former Steeler boss would have to receive assurances from the Jets that the 39-year-old Favre no longer was in the picture before agreeing to take control.

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Pack93z
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16 years ago

That is a potential issue.. if Brett doesn't give you the best chance to win.. you have to combat the pressure of sitting him.. especially if the ownership is mandating the Brett be the face of the offense, which it sounds to be the case.

That is not a bash on Favre.. whether or not he can get it done.. it is a situation in which the coach has no options.. and if you don't need to coach, it might not be the most alluring situation to walk into.

Add the management issue.. I could see a person in Bill's spot passing.

If you are going to be responsible for the product.. you should have a comfortable say in the components to get you there.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

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Hmm... it's possible that he's under the impression that Favre wouldn't listen/defer to him, or something. I could see that being a bit unattractive from Cowher's perspective - I would imagine that his desire would be to stroll in and re-make the team the way he wanted it to be from the ground up, which would be hard to do w/ someone of Favre's stature in place.

Personally, I think the idea that Favre doesn't accept coaching is probably an exaggeration at the least. Still, if that's the impression Cowher has, I can see why he wouldn't want to deal with that while trying to re-build a franchise.

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longtimefan
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my guess is that since Brett may or may not be there in 2009, or 2010, Bill wants a solid option at q/b to really get the team off on the right foot

I do not think it has anything to do with level of play or talent..

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I don't see why Brett would be an issue for the incoming coach. Unless you're a Clemens fan, the Jets don't have a QB of the future. A new coach can draft his guy this year and let him learn on the bench for a year, then Brett's gone. I almost think it would be ideal to have a year of leeway.

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Cheesey
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"mattresell" wrote:

I guess it would also depend on how long the guy wants to coach. If he pnly wants to do that for a few more years, he might not want to join a team where they don't have a long term QB there already. Otherwise he has to wait the however many years it would take to draft and groom a new guy.

dfosterf
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I think Cowher would LOVE to coach Brett Favre. Brett Favre is the kind of football player Cowher loves. If this is true, it has to be situational as described by previous posters. I could see those two butting heads, and I mean literally, on the sidelines after Brett does a "good Brett" thing. To me they are a match made in heaven, and it is too bad it will not come to pass, as I would have liked to have seen that.

Cheesey
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16 years ago

Maybe he doesn't like the Jets management......who knows?

Pack93z
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My point is simply this on the topic.. a coach needs to come into a organization with the ability to make changes he sees fit.. starting out with and investing in a QB with very little playing days left isn't a prime option.

Few coaches come in an compete for the Lombardi year one.. it generally takes a couple of seasons.. investing heavily into a short timer isn't ideal.. especially one that comes will all the pub that Favre carries..

Me.. I won't want the job as it sits either.. you have a fan base the has high expectations.. and you have little ability to stamp your own feel to the roster.. That isn't just because of Favre.. it is because of the countless other FA they added this past offseason.. and a cap situation that isn't healthy.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

dhazer
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16 years ago

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I have seen on ESPN that the new coach will have a say-so on what they do with Brett. Could this be an easy way for Brett to get his release( things that make you go hmmmmmm) Maybe this could have been set up before and Brett and the GM already had this planned easy way around the no trade to NFC north clause.

Just somethings to think about.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

RaiderPride
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16 years ago

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READ THIS......

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2008/12/31/2008-12-31_jets_problem_is_new_coach_may_inherit_sa.html?page=0

""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."

Rockmolder
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16 years ago

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These New Yokers are the biggest bunch of assholes I know tbh.

Everyone knows Favre didn't have a good last part of the season, but c'mon. They're just trying to put the blame of pretty much everything on him.

I hope Cohwer comes to coach there after the Jets release Favre, Favre joins another team, kicks the Jets butt in the regular season throwing for 6 TDs, NYJ fans will suddenly change their attitude, wish Favre all the best, say he should never been let go and they go 2-14.

PackFanWithTwins
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I wouldn't blame him for not wanting Favre as the QB. First it is a lot of money to pay a player that probably at best only plays 1 year. He would be coming in to build his team, and if Brett is not part of the coaches strategy, he should not be forced to. That is how coaches get screwed over.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

longtimefan
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read the article from RP

Rockmolder
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"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:

Obviously, but can't they just release him in that case instead of bashing him from every side possible. It's just the mentality from those New Yorkers and even his team mates that is really annoying me.

I understand Cohwer doesn't want to play with Favre, but if I where to coach teh Jets, I'd put up with him for at least another year, if he decides to return fast. Who else would you want to start, Clemens? Maybe you can get a guy in the draft soon or in FA. If Favre would keep playing the way he did in the last part of the season, either bench him or release him, we did with KGB.

EDIT : Oh, and for clarification, Cohwer's reason for not joining is understandable, if I could get a coach like that, he could reform my entire coaching staff.

PackFanWithTwins
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There is more to it than just inheriting Favre. Brett would probably actually fit pretty well with Cowher offensively. He is more run oriented and that would probably help Favre last the season.

The bigger issue is that from what I have seen is that the Jets are sitting 127 million towards an estimated 123 million 09 cap. No space to do anything. Cutting Favre would save 13 million towards that.

http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary09.html

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