Packers to re-sign Starks to a two year deal· Page 4

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

No... more like 4.45 or so... he just looks faster because he's really small and quick.

And Harris is no Sproles and Sproles is no Harris...

Sproles is a 5'6" WR in the back-field. He has no power, and needs space and open field to get work or he's done. (kind of like Franklin, though as Franklin, Cobb and Sproles have shown a WR in the backfield can work if you protect them, use them wisely and get them extra spot to work their quickness, speed and magic.)(also Franklin showed he could effectively block which surprised me, it wasn't great but it was decent and good enough).

Harris is a true small RB with surprising power for his size and while he's no short yardage back he can run between the tackles normally and work at times with no space and make something happen out of nothing.

Originally Posted by: beast

Harris's 40 time was 4.37. But yes, he's got power too.

As for Franklin, the dude isn't a WR in the backfield. He's a legit runner.

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PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#32

If I recall, Harris has that 4.3 type speed, doesn't he? I know Mike wanted him to be a Darren Sproles type dude. Wouldn't surprise me a bit. He's a little on the short side, though.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

With Lacy and Starks, we should take Harris speed and his vertical leap (41" claimed) and teach him to play FS.

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beast
Select Member

11 years ago

#33

Harris's 40 time was 4.37. But yes, he's got power too.

As for Franklin, the dude isn't a WR in the backfield. He's a legit runner.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

From my understanding Harris' 4.37 was an unofficial time at practice. (and some players never match their unofficial times with official times).

Edit: I checked it out further and it seems like troymessenger.com (the local newspaper) reported the 4.37 time for Harris' proday. While looking at their numbers and nfldraftscout numbers they don't match up and troymessengers numbers seem faster for all the players. I don't know who's right for sure.

Harris' proday time was reported as 4.44 according to nfldraftscout.com . Also note his reported 10 yard time, of 1.44 which is super quick.

My point was I think Sproles and Cobb are WRs... and Franklin is athletic enough he could be used like a WR. Though Franklin did seem to lack power, he was able to make things out of nothing at times against the Bengals.

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#34

From my understanding Harris' 4.37 was an unofficial time at practice. (and some players never match their unofficial times with official times).

Harris' proday time was reported as 4.44 according to nfldraftscout.com . Also note his reported 10 yard time, of 1.44 which is super quick.

My point was I think Sproles and Cobb are WRs... and Franklin is athletic enough he could be used like a WR. Though Franklin did seem to lack power, he was able to make things out of nothing at times against the Bengals.

Originally Posted by: beast

Franklin isn't a powerful runner but he's got slipperyness and balance that allows him to do things like bounce off hits and break through arm tackles.

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#35

Franklin isn't a powerful runner but he's got slipperyness and balance that allows him to do things like bounce off hits and break through arm tackles.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Patience too. Knows how to run behind his blockers.

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DakotaT
Select Member

11 years ago

#36

Starks contract numbers were:

2yrs
$3.165M (yearly average $1.583M)
guaranteed: $725K

Cap number:
2014 - $1.37M
2015 - $1.795M

Pretty good deal.

musccy
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#37

Starks contract numbers were:

2yrs
$3.165M (yearly average $1.583M)
guaranteed: $725K

Cap number:
2014 - $1.37M
2015 - $1.795M

Pretty good deal.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

He had a cap number of about 650k last year, which IMO he outplayed. Certainly a reasonable number to bring him back at, and a raise for him, so it looks like a win-win.

musccy
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#38

Starks contract numbers were:

2yrs
$3.165M (yearly average $1.583M)
guaranteed: $725K

Cap number:
2014 - $1.37M
2015 - $1.795M

Pretty good deal.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

He had a cap number of about 650k last year, which IMO he outplayed. Certainly a reasonable number to bring him back at, and a raise for him, so it looks like a win-win.

Dulak
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#39

Harris Sucks!

This team is about Lacey and Starks as a backup ; Harris if on the team isnt going to do jack compared to these 2.

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#40

Harris Sucks!

This team is about Lacey and Starks as a backup ; Harris if on the team isnt going to do jack compared to these 2.

Originally Posted by: Dulak

No quarrel about Lacey and Starks, but Harris is a quality player who should get a few carries even if Lacey and Starks stay healthy. I would like to see him get a shot and do well as a punt and kick returner. Franklin is the one I am negative about. I don't see any role for him, and I doubt if we could get much in trade.

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