steveishere
11 years ago

I was referring to Raji or Quarless

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Well considering he's only signed Shields so far, saying "Overpay for some more of the useless Packer free agents" doesn't make any sense unless you were referring to Shields.
DoddPower
11 years ago

Well considering he's only signed Shields so far, saying "Overpay for some more of the useless Packer free agents" doesn't make any sense unless you were referring to Shields.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



It makes sense in the context of Brad Jones and Morgan Burnett at least. And possibly Hawk, at least before his restructure. Every GM overpays someone, though. It's impossible not to. Most GM's, especially Ted Thompson, also gets some nice value on certain players, so it comes out in the wash, somewhat. Sometimes it can be worth it to overpay a little though, but certainly not all the time.
dhazer
11 years ago

It makes sense in the context of Brad Jones at least. And possibly Hawk, at least before his restructure. Every GM overpays someone, though. It's impossible not to.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Hawk Jones Burnett is what I was referring to
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steveishere
11 years ago

It makes sense in the context of Brad Jones at least. And possibly Hawk, at least before his restructure. Every GM overpays someone, though. It's impossible not to. Most GM's, especially Ted Thompson, also gets some nice value on certain players, so it comes out in the wash, somewhat. Sometimes it can be worth it to overpay a little though, but certainly not all the time.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I'm cool with "overpaying" a bit on deals that are only like 2-4m a year, a few of those won't crush you. Overpaying on the mega deals are what kills you. I don't see the fuss over Jones since he didn't get enough money that even if we cut him right now we wouldn't be hurting. I see people complain about Burnett a lot too but when he signed that deal his 2011/2012 seasons were every bit as good as some of the S that people are wanting Ted to sign and are getting similar deals. He just had a down year compared to his previous years for whatever reason.
steveishere
11 years ago

Hawk Jones Burnett is what I was referring to

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Heh, I remember you specifically complaining about the deal we gave Rodgers in 2008. It's not wise to judge a multi-year deal 1 year or less into it.
texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

I was referring to Raji or Quarless

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



HUGE difference between Raji and Quarless. I really hope we retain Quarless.

It's like a kick in the ass every time one of these guys like Ward gets signed elsewhere. Come on, Ted, reel in Byrd. We can certainly afford him.


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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

Heh, I remember you specifically complaining about the deal we gave Rodgers in 2008. It's not wise to judge a multi-year deal 1 year or less into it.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



dhazer was pissing and moaning about the angle Aaron Rodgers held the Lombardi Trophy just moments after the Packers won XLV.
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dhazer
11 years ago

dhazer was pissing and moaning about the angle Aaron Rodgers held the Lombardi Trophy just moments after the Packers won XLV.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I still think we are overpaying Matthews also. Your paying a guy what about $1 million a game each year? Last year he got paid $22 million and he played in 11 games. I am sure he is worth the $2million a game ( 🤥 sarcasm alert)

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musccy
11 years ago
According to profootballtalk the saints nabbed him for 6 years
play2win
11 years ago
Uh, nevermind.

Well, we'll just have to see who they slap together back there and hope for the best. We still have a lot of dough to make a splash somewhere else if Ted so chooses. I just happen to think it is time we hit on a key veteran acquisition at a position of need. We are too young, and we have been for years. We need experienced, high quality play and leadership on this team.

I'm very disappointed Ted let Byrd hit NO. He is one player in FA that we really, really could have used. Now, we will be forced to draft a S in R1 or R2 out of need, letting other potential game breaking players slip away to our competition.

Or, does Sean Richardson make a splash next season? I guess there is our hope. It is pretty much all we've got.
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