Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Sheeesh! Yeah, that trading down does sound like something Thompson would do, but it's a fucked up idea. We should move up, not down, if anything.

Solve Safety in free agency and ILB and OLB in the draft. And a big Raji/Nix size HELL NO to drafting another big lump in the first round.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Yes, move UP because recent history shows the Packers nail studs in 1st round more often than 2nd and 3rd round.

Give me an extra top half of the round 2nd and 3rd round pick over the 21st overall. I like my chances.
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

Yes, move UP because recent history shows the Packers nail studs in 1st round more often than 2nd and 3rd round.

Give me an extra top half of the round 2nd and 3rd round pick over the 21st overall. I like my chances.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



It's well known I have a generally low opinion of Ted Thompson, but in the case of Sherrod and the other first round failures, I would say LUCK had a lot to do with it, not to mention the fact that the jury is still out on D. Jones and maybe Sherrod. As for the second round success, I give him credit there, Lacy especially, but also he had the same kind of LUCK he had when Rodgers fell to him.

I'd rather have an athletic talented first rounder - maybe Mosely - than an extra 2nd, 3rd, and 7th pick. We need quality more than quantity.

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yooperfan
10 years ago

My Bad, it's The Redskins who don't have a 1st rnd pick, damnit, they are also reported to be in need of a safety.

The scenario works for them also.

I agree,would like to see Ted move down to get an extra 2nd and 3rd, then use that 3rd The Packers 4th to move up into the 2nd rnd(Cleveland a possibility), with them having 2 #1's.

That would give The Packers 3 2nd rnd picks.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



That's a scenario I would like to see happen!

Zero2Cool
10 years ago

It's well known I have a generally low opinion of Ted Thompson, but in the case of Sherrod and the other first round failures, I would say LUCK had a lot to do with it, not to mention the fact that the jury is still out on D. Jones and maybe Sherrod. As for the second round success, I give him credit there, Lacy especially, but also he had the same kind of LUCK he had when Rodgers fell to him.

I'd rather have an athletic talented first rounder - maybe Mosely - than an extra 2nd, 3rd, and 7th pick. We need quality more than quantity.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 


When I look over this list, I do not get any warm an fuzzy feelings. 


2013	1	26	Datone Jones	DE	UCLA
2012	1	28	Nick Perry	DE	USC
2011	1	32	Derek Sherrod	OL	Mississippi St.
2010	1	23	Bryan Bulaga	T	Iowa
2009	1	9	B.J. Raji	DT	Boston Col.
2009	1	26	Clay Matthews	LB	USC
2007	1	16	Justin Harrell	DT	Tennessee
2006	1	5	A.J. Hawk	LB	Ohio St.
2005	1	24	Aaron Rodgers	QB Cal




o_O there be some warm an fuzzies!!

2013	2	61	Eddie Lacy	RB	Alabama
2012	2	51	Jerel Worthy	DT	Michigan St.
2012	2	62	Casey Hayward	DB	Vanderbilt
2011	2	64	Randall Cobb	WR	East. Kentucky
2010	2	56	Mike Neal	DE	Purdue
2008	2	36	Jordy Nelson	WR	Kansas St.
2008	2	56	Brian Brohm	QB	Louisville
2008	2	60	Patrick Lee	DB	Auburn
2007	2	63	Brandon Jackson	RB	Nebraska
2006	2	47	Daryn Colledge	T	Boise St.
2006	2	52	Greg Jennings	WR	West. Michigan
2005	2	51	Nick Collins	DB	Bethune-Cookman
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10 years ago

My Bad, it's The Redskins who don't have a 1st rnd pick, damnit, they are also reported to be in need of a safety.

The scenario works for them also.

I agree,would like to see Ted move down to get an extra 2nd and 3rd, then use that 3rd The Packers 4th to move up into the 2nd rnd(Cleveland a possibility), with them having 2 #1's.

That would give The Packers 3 2nd rnd picks.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



The Redskins, I mean the Native Americans, will probably give their 2nd and 3rd round picks this year and their 2nd round pick next year.
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10 years ago

Sheeesh! Yeah, that trading down does sound like something Thompson would do, but it's a fucked up idea. We should move up, not down, if anything.

Solve Safety in free agency and ILB and OLB in the draft. And a big Raji/Nix size HELL NO to drafting another big lump in the first round.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



There are several roster spots to fill. They could resign a lot of them or they could fill the spots with draft picks and probably have more talent overall.

If you want Ted Thompson to make a couple of relatively impactful FA moves then trading back and getting more picks would be one way to navigate to an improved roster overall. He has to get to 53 somehow so why not use the draft with the boat load of talent there this year and an inexpensive way to get better and allow a REAL FA move or two.

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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

There are several roster spots to fill. They could resign a lot of them or they could fill the spots with draft picks and probably have more talent overall.

If you want Ted Thompson to make a couple of relatively impactful FA moves then trading back and getting more picks would be one way to navigate to an improved roster overall. He has to get to 53 somehow so why not use the draft with the boat load of talent there this year and an inexpensive way to get better and allow a REAL FA move or two.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 



Letting quality players go - Shields, Quarless, EDS, maybe Starks, then replacing them with drafted players, THAT is like spinning your wheels. Keeping them and drafting to our weaknesses - Safety, ILB, maybe OLB is making decent progress; Using free agency to bring in a quality Safety and the draft to get more quality and athleticism at LB, THAT is taking a leap forward. I do not include James Jones and Raji in that retaining of our own because we have quality in place already at both WR and D-Line, and because Raji is worthless anyway.

I see your point about getting lower price talent in the draft, but we have the cap space - there's no good in wasting it, and generally, the lower you go in the draft, the more mediocre you get.

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play2win
10 years ago

Yes, move UP because recent history shows the Packers nail studs in 1st round more often than 2nd and 3rd round.

Give me an extra top half of the round 2nd and 3rd round pick over the 21st overall. I like my chances.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I can easily see this happening, and I wouldn't be too disappointed. At the moment, I don't even care, move up or down. That doesn't matter to me. All that matters is that Ted gets the best players to come in and make an impact.

I want him to be aggressive in getting who he wants, but, open to that being an extra player or two with a trade down. Gotta hit though. We need immediate help with impact players, not projects. This draft does look deep enough to land a bunch with trades down, or up.
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10 years ago

The Redskins, I mean the Native Americans, will probably give their 2nd and 3rd round picks this year and their 2nd round pick next year.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



The Native Americans might very well give up every pick next year for a #1 this year. Never overestimate Dan Snyder's intelligence!!!
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