texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
Now they are talking about some key Niner players, not just the owner/front office having problems with Harbaugh.

I would suggest that the line between a great head coach, a decent head coach, and a poor head coach is a thin one, and that PLAYERS - quality of players - is the much more important factor in success. Call it getting lucky/call it being sharp at drafting/signing/whatever, but the Niners hit it big with Willis, Bowman, a couple of D-Linemen, and of course Kaepernick. I give THAT fact a lot more credit than I give Harbaugh or scheme or playcalling or other factors for success.

What a coach can do is mess things up - overdoing (or under-doing) discipline, etc. I don't know that much about Harbaugh's management style, but you can't get away with being too much of a Vince Lombardi-type in the modern era. Likewise, being another Barry Switzer or Wade Phillips - letting players run wild - doesn't work either.

Speaking only of discipline and player management - not defensive schemes, playcalling, etc., I think what we have with the Packers pretty much covers the middle ground - which is about right for success.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago
Tom Coughlin had quite a few players, okay, a few players gripe about his style and that it had worn thin. They ended up winning the Super Bowl several months later.
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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
I have serious doubts about Harbaugh, and that he inherited a team set to win, rather than him being the difference, and inherited a team in cap position to be able to bring in or keep players that others cannot. I do not think he is close to the coach his brother is, and if his locker room personality is anything close to on field antics, I can easily see how he can rub people and players in the wrong direction.
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Laser Gunns
10 years ago

Harbaugh (Jim)

texaspackerbacker wrote:



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Laser Gunns
10 years ago

I have serious doubts about Harbaugh, and that he inherited a team set to win, rather than him being the difference, and inherited a team in cap position to be able to bring in or keep players that others cannot. I do not think he is close to the coach his brother is, and if his locker room personality is anything close to on field antics, I can easily see how he can rub people and players in the wrong direction.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



All of the team's 8 pro-bowlers, came from the pre-Harbaugh era.

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DakotaT
10 years ago
All Harbaugh has done is taken Mike Singletary's team farther than Mike did. Let him go build his own team and earn it that way.
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10 years ago

All Harbaugh has done is taken Mike Singletary's team farther than Mike did. Let him go build his own team and earn it that way.

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So Bruce Weder ish.
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beast (17h) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game
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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
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