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11 years ago

Life goes on, and the Green Bay Packers appear to have moved on from wide receiver James Jones.

A source said Jones hasn't been offered a new contract and, in all likelihood, won't be.

JSOnline  wrote:


Jones has been adequate in GB but he is starting to a few years on him. He probably won't be able to live up the he end of a 3 year contract.

Picking up a wr in the draft would make more sense than keeping Jones.
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play2win
11 years ago
Sad to me because he seems like one hell of a guy, and he has been a reliable player for us. I hope they can keep him in GB. This could play out for a while.
DakotaT
11 years ago

Sad to me because he seems like one hell of a guy, and he has been a reliable player for us. I hope they can keep him in GB. This could play out for a while.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



James Jones has never met the lofty expectations I had for him. He's been a solid player, but very replaceable.

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buckeyepackfan
11 years ago
My thinking is james Jones falls into the category of "wait and see" what happens.

I know FA starts March 11th, not sure just how long it goes, I believe Ted will put the ball in James's corner, letting him see who is interested and for how much.

Ted is not going to overpay James, but if his agent comes back and says this is what we will play for and it in the range Ted wants to pay, he will resign James.

What that number is??? Who knows.

I think there are quite a few of the Packers FA's who fall into this category.

John Kuhn, James Starks, Matt Flynn, Johnny Jolly, Ryan Pickett, Mike Neal, Robert Francois, C. J. Wilson.

I see these guys as Top priority signings.

Sam Shields(don't let him get to March 11th), Evan Dietrich-Smith, Andrew Quarless, and Jamari Lattimore.

The 2 really big ?'s are B.J. Raji(probably gone), and now all of a sudden is Jermicheal Finley back in the picture?(probably not, but could change some of the decisions if he is resigned).

Will be interesting to see what happens between the end of the combine and the start of FA, I believe the picture will start to clear, we will all know what direction The team decided to go.






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nerdmann
11 years ago
JJ showed he's a man, but that said he's not a top end FA.

They'll let him test the market. Ted has a number, and if he's still available for that, he'll be back.
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sschind
11 years ago
IMO the Packer receiving corps will not be as good without James Jones. We go from having 3 solid, guys (I almost said proven but that may still be up in the air on Cobb) and a guy who had a very good 2nd year entering the breakout 3rd year to 2 solid guys and a guy who had a very good 2nd year entering the breakout 3rd year. To me that is not as good.

That said I completely understand the idea behind letting him walk. He is replaceable as Dakota said (not sure what lofty expectations he had for Jones that he never reached but ...) but he is not replaceable at his current level. Maybe with a draft pick we can be to this level or even above in a couple of years but no rookie is going to step into this offense and put up numbers like Jones did if Nelson and Cobb stay healthy. Now Boykin might put up Jones numbers but again, no rookie will put up the numbers Boykin did last year. Not with the guys we have.

However, I am not simply talking about numbers here. I fully expect that with a healthy Rodgers and a healthy Cobb, Nelson, Boykin, ??? the Packers will put up the same or better numbers passing as they have in the past. Hence the understanding of why to let Jones go.If you can get the same numbers for less money why not do it. Also, if they draft a highly talented rookie who knows he might emerge as our go to guy. That is hard to do that with limited roster spots.

What I am talking about is guys playing at an advanced level out on the field right now. You can't tell me that, from a pure talent/experience in a 4 receiver set level you would rather have Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, Rookie than Nelson, Cobb, Boykin and Jones. If you say you would I don't believe you. However, as has been said, having that level of experience may be a luxury we can't afford.

As someone said in the comments section of the JS article. We can win another Super Bowl with James Jones at WR. We cannot with our current MLBs and Safeties

I will hate to see him go and he will be one of the rare players that I follow his career after he leaves.
Zero2Cool
11 years ago
James Jones agent thinks Thompson doesn't want James Jones back next season. “I don’t think Ted Thompson wants [Jones],” agent Frank Bauer told Bob McGinn.

However, Thompson has said he wants all free agents back. Thing is, Thompson has to pick where he spends his salary cap dollars and with Jarrett Boykin (whom I told you would be solid btw, ahem! :P) sufficing as a 3rd WR to Randall Cobb and Jordy Nelson, they might have to allocate their monies elsewhere. I wouldn't mind seeing James Jones back, especially if they let Finley walk. I think one of them has to return though.


Somewhere there was a list of top WR free agents. James Jones wasn't even listed on the top 10. Maybe he comes back to the Packers for $3.4 million a year?


Here's a comment from Mike McCarthy on Boykin.
"I'm as high on Boykin as anybody in our building," Mike McCarthy said Friday at the combine. "He had a heck of a year, and I still think he has another jump in him."
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DakotaT
11 years ago
Could it be possibly that Uncle Ted spends our first rounder on a talented top notch WR? I'd really like to see a 6-5 sub 4.4 speed pass catcher with awesome hands and break away speed to team up with Nelson on the outside and Cobb wreaking havoc between the hashes.

Just a thought - no need to tell me we need defense first - that's a given.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
MARTAVIS BRYANT WR 6'4" and 4.38 forty. Considered to be the 12th best WR in the draft. Hardly worth a 1st round pick.
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Mucky Tundra
11 years ago
Apparently the draft this year is deep at WR

With the influx of underclassmen who have declared for the 2014 NFL Draft, wide receiver is now the strongest and deepest position group in this class. Vanderbilt's Jordan Matthews is the only senior wide receiver among the top 12 players at the position in our latest rankings.



2014 NFL Draft wide receiver rankings 
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