Countdown to Combine: Packers' needs· Page 2

Laser Gunns
Senior Member

11 years ago

#11

We are solid in the D-Line right now - Daniels, Worthy, D. Jones, Boyd, and Jolly.

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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

If you think that is solid.. Oh my. Your expectations are reeally low.

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luigis
Member

11 years ago

#12

We are solid in the D-Line right now - Daniels, Worthy, D. Jones, Boyd, and Jolly.

Safety would best be addressed in free agency because of the need for immediate improvement - which wouldn't be guaranteed even by one of the top Safeties mentioned in the article. Do that, then use the top two picks to get the best ILB and OLB available.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Is there a way to address the safety position in free agency that is not named Jarius Byrd?
Maybe I'm missing something but it's either Byrd or the draft or we have to hope for a genetically modfied MD Jennings.

I woud love to know what Teddy plans to do in this draft I have the feeling this is the first time that draft for need might win over BPA.

Luis

yooperfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

I don't agree that the D-Line is solid with the mentioned players bit it probably is what it is.
I do agree with your take on the safety and linebacker situations.

Yerko
Senior Member

11 years ago

#14

Micah Hyde, Micah Hyde, Hicah Hyde, Micah Hyde.

Oh yeah, I think Micah Hyde should be our Strong Safety!

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Thank you.

I've been slinging around free agent names in the free agency threads and I came to a halt today, especially after McCarthy spoke at the combine. Micah Hyde was mentioned and McCarthy said he wants him to be a three down player, including some work at safety. Why not just give him the full-time job at safety?

Hyde has decent experience at safety from his days at Iowa. He wasn't bad at all playing the position either. He's a decent corner, who lacks the man-to-man coverage from time to time (imo). He's a better player in space. He also has the speed and physicality (I'd say he is physical like Woodson, not on par skill wise but similar) to play at safety. He is bigger, but not as big as the two top safeties in this class.

Packers move Hyde to safety and they still have Williams, Shields (pending re-signing), Hayward and House at the cornerback position. Moving Hyde to safety would also allow the Packers to focus their 1-2 round draft picks on let's say...defensive line and linebacker. They shouldn't neglect the safety position in the draft but maybe someone like Jimmie Ward is there in the 3rd round. Take him then, let him learn and then play for a starting job.

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: luigis

Yes. There is T.J. Ward from the Browns. He is a quality cover Safety, and he should be a little bit cheaper than Byrd.

There is some merit in solving the problem in house with Hyde (or Hayward or even Tramon Williams), then drafting or signing a Corner - like Verner or Tillman also.

I say again, the D-Line with the five guys I mentioned above and maybe a low round pick or UDFA is plenty good enough. Just getting rid of the two fat pigs that constituted the bulk (no pun intended) of the problem will make the line MUCH better. The quality and mobility of Daniels and probable quality and mobility of Worthy and D. Jones will make for a serious upgrade. It seems like the posters claiming these guys aren't enough just want to draft some new fat piece of crap/Raji clone - something we absolutely don't need.

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Premier Member

11 years ago

#16

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