A week ago everyone on this forum was ecstatic that we beat the Bears, won the NFCN and just slipped into the play-offs.

One monday later and everyone is let down by the SF loss.

Of course you always play hard, play to win and all of that, but in hindsight, on the long run... I'm not really sure who won out in week 17.

Again, you always play hard, you can't predict what happens in the play-offs and you don't throw games, but we did give up 7 picks to one of our biggest rivals.

The difference between the 14th and the 21st pick is drafting a guy like Kouandjio, Nix or Hage or not getting any of those guys and falling into a part of the draft where there's no d-lineman worthy of a pick and a lot of OTs you have to take a gamble on like Sherrod or guys with lower ceilings like Bulaga.

What's the point of my story? Nothing big, really. Just that the Bears, in hindsight, won in week 17.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 

I can understand your thinking... Losing in week 17 gives the Packers a better opportunity to pick the player highest on their draft board.

However.. There is as Pack93Z states the economic impact.. Great point.

Add to that..... Playoff week and atmosphere experience. For all of the kids this week the playoff atmosphere and experience they received is a big plus in 2014. If that experience helps them calm down, and focus better next year at the dance, it more than makes up for the drop on Draft Day.

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 

I've stated before that winning the division only to get embarrassed in the first round or two of the playoffs wouldn't make me feel any better than not winning the division, really. However, the Packers didn't get embarrassed in the playoffs. They got beat. They were beaten by a better team that is more talented, healthier, more physical, and better coached, but they could have won the game if they made just a few more plays. It's obviously not ideal, and the Packers have some serious concerns to address to become a true contender again, but they put up a decent fight. That's all average-to-good teams can really hope for against the top teams in the league. Until the Packers at least seriously address a couple of their major weaknesses, I just don't see them as being anything more than good. Fortunately, things could turn around pretty quickly, or they could remain about the same. It all depends on how the off season plays out, in addition to player health during the season.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

I've stated before that winning the division only to get embarrassed in the first round or two of the playoffs wouldn't make me feel any better than not winning the division, really. However, the Packers didn't get embarrassed in the playoffs. They got beat. They were beaten by a better team that is more talented, healthier, more physical, and better coached, but they could have won the game if they made just a few more plays. It's obviously not ideal, and the Packers have some serious concerns to address to become a true contender again, but they put up a decent fight. That's all average-to-good teams can really hope for against the top teams in the league. Until the Packers at least seriously address a couple of their major weaknesses, I just don't see them as being anything more than good. Fortunately, things could turn around pretty quickly, or they could remain about the same. It all depends on how the off season plays out, in addition to player health during the season.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

I thought along the lines of getting the higher pick, hell, I brought it up. What sense did it make to limp into the playoffs with a quarterback not fully healed? But when the game began against the Bears, I was rooting for the Packers like I always do. Not quite sure why one Packer fan thinks he's more of a fan than another cause he doesn't entertain thoughts of what would be better in the long run?

I was pleasantly surprised with how we fought the 9ers yesterday. We were like a one legged in an ass kicking contest, and almost pulled it out. We know our team has heart, except for the Thanksgiving debacle - so now it is just a matter of making proper adjustments to the lineup.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

I won!!!!! I got to slap my jackass B-I-L around for another week. Had the bares won both games this year he would have been even more of a jerk that he normally is. In the end all I had to say is GB has been in the playoffs the last 5 years with a SB to show for themselves. HOW BOUT DEM BARES? They only made it once and GB eliminated them in one way or another 3 of the last 4 years.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

I thought along the lines of getting the higher pick, hell, I brought it up. What sense did it make to limp into the playoffs with a quarterback not fully healed? But when the game began against the Bears, I was rooting for the Packers like I always do. Not quite sure why one Packer fan thinks he's more of a fan than another cause he doesn't entertain thoughts of what would be better in the long run?

I was pleasantly surprised with how we fought the 9ers yesterday. We were like a one legged in an ass kicking contest, and almost pulled it out. We know our team has heart, except for the Thanksgiving debacle - so now it is just a matter of making proper adjustments to the lineup.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

Fair enough, my articulate friend.

I would like to, one more time, point out that I stated that this was in hindsight, after the 49ers loss and that I didn't want us to throw the game in week 17. Rodgers to Cobb was amazing and I would've loved to see us get hot in the play-offs like we did on our last SB run.

I do feel that there is quite a gap between pick 14 and 21, regardless of whether you can find some gems in the 2nd, 3rd or even the 7th round.

I have to admit that a big part of this is personal preference, as well. I'd rather watch the draft than 3 Packers games.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 

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I've got a B-I-L who is a Bears fan as well but thankfully he is not a jackass. I had to watch the game at his house because I don't have a TV but I must say, even though deep down I know he was rooting for the 49ers and I know he was happy as shit that the Packers lost he didn't say anything. Part of that is because I'm not a jackass and I didn't rub it in when the Packers beat the Bears. You reap what you sow in many cases (not saying you were a JA to your B-I-L wpr but a lot of Packers fans are)

I'm kind of glad my 11 year old nephew was spending the night at a friends house though. He doesn't know the meaning of the word tact yet and I know he would have been in my face and it would have been really bad for a 280 pound 47 year old man to beat the shit out of a 80 pound 11 year old. I wouldn't have done it but believe me he would have deserved it. My 12 year old nephew is learning, at least he kind of turned his head and hid his smirk.

Originally Posted by: sschind 

I was pleasantly surprised with how we fought the 9ers yesterday. We were like a one legged in an ass kicking contest, and almost pulled it out. We know our team has heart, except for the Thanksgiving debacle - so now it is just a matter of making proper adjustments to the lineup.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

IMO you could have phrased your OP a little better. There is a huge difference between WONDERING who really won in week 17 and WISHING your team had lost to get the better pick. Much of my first response to you initial post was aimed at the latter which is where I thought you were going. Your next post cleared it up a little.

Still to anyone who wishes that the Packers would have lost to the Bears in week 17 I would simply like to reiterate the invitation I made in my response to Dakota in post #32.

Originally Posted by: sschind 

While this might be true, however those same players projected in the early teens could easily fall to us.

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 

I apologize for calling the OP an idiot.

I should have said his post seemed completely idiotic to me instead.

Seeing Cutler and the Bears cry and go home was priceless, I really don't care about when we pick in the draft.

Originally Posted by: luigis 

IMO you could have phrased your OP a little better. There is a huge difference between WONDERING who really won in week 17 and WISHING your team had lost to get the better pick. Much of my first response to you initial post was aimed at the latter which is where I thought you were going. Your next post cleared it up a little.

Still to anyone who wishes that the Packers would have lost to the Bears in week 17 I would simply like to reiterate the invitation I made in my response to Dakota in post #32.

Originally Posted by: sschind 

You're right. I should've phrased it a bit better.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder