DarkaneRules
10 years ago
We all know what a good defense looks like here and this ain't it. We just gotta hope and pray it is enough to keep us in the game.
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DakotaT
10 years ago

We all know what a good defense looks like here and this ain't it. We just gotta hope and pray it is enough to keep us in the game.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



What makes me mad is the lack of accountability among players, coaches, and management.
UserPostedImage
10 years ago
the title of this thread is missing something. It should also read, "McCarthy needs to step it up and quit being stubborn and call the best game of his life." Otherwise, this will be another game he is outcoached
blueleopard
10 years ago
Wade Phillips would be a good pickup at defensive coordinator if you ask me.
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DakotaT
10 years ago

Wade Phillips would be a good pickup at defensive coordinator if you ask me.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



Can he bring JJ Watt with him? [grin1]
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beast
10 years ago

The biggest problem with this weak ass defense we've been running is it is only successful when getting turnovers. Well, we're not getting the turnovers, so that's why it looks so bad. Also, it is a very weak defense up the middle, very weak.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Weak up the middle because the DL isn't that good. Pickett is getting old and while still very consistant isn't playing quite as good as he used to. Raji on the other hand is very inconsistant, looks great at times horrible on others and doesn't seem to prefer run clogging much (which all DTs have to do at some put unless maybe they're running a Tampa 2 or something).

Jolly is on IR. Neal is needed at OLB. Daniels is undersized (for 3-4 run clogging) and the rest are back-ups / rotation guys at the moment.


I doubt they do it but I'm still a bit interested in trying the Wade Phillips scheme idea at some point... (not interested in Wade Phillips per say just the scheme idea).

Basically put your run clogging DL at DE (Pickett/Raji) and put you best interior penetrator at NT (Daniels) and ask the penetrator to get into the back field and make a play on the ball. (Of course you got to make sure an ILB is watching the penetrator because if he misses there is a BIG BIG hole up the middle. But think Daniels at times has flashed the physical skill to dominate, that's better than we've seen from the other DL.

Not sure you first run this in a playoff game either, I'm thinking no you don't...
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DakotaT
10 years ago
First let's not make the mistake that Raji and Pickett are effective run stuffers anymore. We need an infusion of real talent on the Dline, inside linebacker, and safety. So pretty much the whole draft again. It's getting sickening.
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beast
10 years ago

First let's not make the mistake that Raji and Pickett are effective run stuffers anymore. We need an infusion of real talent on the Dline, inside linebacker, and safety. So pretty much the whole draft again. It's getting sickening.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I think mainly DL and S. The ILBers aren't special but I really don't think they need to be special in the 3-4. Just like OLBers don't really need to be special in a normal 4-3.


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nerdmann
10 years ago

First let's not make the mistake that Raji and Pickett are effective run stuffers anymore. We need an infusion of real talent on the Dline, inside linebacker, and safety. So pretty much the whole draft again. It's getting sickening.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Raji's forte was never run stuffing. He's a penetrator, like someone was talking about earlier, vis a vis Wade Phillips.
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