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16 years ago
Yes, Orakpo is a beast, but there is a lot of talent in the top 10-15 this year. You have two premiere LB's in Maualuga and Curry, about 4 very highly rated and coveted OTs, two franchise type QB's (Stafford and Bradford), a stud man-coverage CB (Jenkins) and a stud WR (Crabtree). I think Beanie Wells could slip down quite a ways with his injury history and what-not. If a top 10 team takes him, we have a decent chance at Orakpo.

The truth of the matter is, if someone doesn't fall to us, we're going to be trading down. Guys like Raji, Michael Johnson etc. could all be available mid-1st.
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dfosterf
16 years ago

Yes, Orakpo is a beast, but there is a lot of talent in the top 10-15 this year. You have two premiere LB's in Maualuga and Curry, about 4 very highly rated and coveted OTs, two franchise type QB's (Stafford and Bradford), a stud man-coverage CB (Jenkins) and a stud WR (Crabtree). I think Beanie Wells could slip down quite a ways with his injury history and what-not. If a top 10 team takes him, we have a decent chance at Orakpo.

The truth of the matter is, if someone doesn't fall to us, we're going to be trading down. Guys like Raji, Michael Johnson etc. could all be available mid-1st.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Good post. I would submit that many players that so many are so high on will be available later than expected. This is a good draft to do a trade back, imo, so please, fellow fans, try to think of that in the millisecond prior to flipping out if Ted Thompson does just that. :thumbleft:

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IronMan
16 years ago
I don't normally get too exited for the draft; but I am anxiously awaiting this years draft.
16 years ago
Been watching video of Michael Johnson. He really wouldn't be a bad option if we traded down a few spots (or even if we didn't). He has a variety of moves, including a swim move and even a spin move. He holds the point well on running plays and doesn't give up the edge. Best of all, he seems to play with a high level of awareness.
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go.pack.go.
16 years ago

Been watching video of Michael Johnson. He really wouldn't be a bad option if we traded down a few spots (or even if we didn't). He has a variety of moves, including a swim move and even a spin move. He holds the point well on running plays and doesn't give up the edge. Best of all, he seems to play with a high level of awareness.

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Michael Johnson (6'7") is taller than Brian Orakpo (6'4") and only weighs 2 lbs less (258 lbs). He is also a tenth of a second faster on the 40 yard dash.

Michael Johnson would be a good selection if Orakpo has already been taken off the board. In fact, that's who I want them to get if O-sack-po isn't there anymore.
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toronto_cheesehead
16 years ago

Been watching video of Michael Johnson. He really wouldn't be a bad option if we traded down a few spots (or even if we didn't). He has a variety of moves, including a swim move and even a spin move. He holds the point well on running plays and doesn't give up the edge. Best of all, he seems to play with a high level of awareness.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



Michael Johnson (6'7") is taller than Brian Orakpo (6'4") and only weighs 2 lbs less (258 lbs). He is also a tenth of a second faster on the 40 yard dash.

Michael Johnson would be a good selection if Orakpo has already been taken off the board. In fact, that's who I want them to get if O-sack-po isn't there anymore.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



I'm not too concerned with Johnson's weight. At 6'7 he should be able to put on weight over the next few years. Plus, we have Jenkins on first and second down, so Johnson would only need to be a speed rusher as a rookie.
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16 years ago
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16 years ago

Been watching video of Michael Johnson. He really wouldn't be a bad option if we traded down a few spots (or even if we didn't). He has a variety of moves, including a swim move and even a spin move. He holds the point well on running plays and doesn't give up the edge. Best of all, he seems to play with a high level of awareness.

"toronto_cheesehead" wrote:



Michael Johnson (6'7") is taller than Brian Orakpo (6'4") and only weighs 2 lbs less (258 lbs). He is also a tenth of a second faster on the 40 yard dash.

Michael Johnson would be a good selection if Orakpo has already been taken off the board. In fact, that's who I want them to get if O-sack-po isn't there anymore.

"go.pack.go." wrote:




I'm not too concerned with Johnson's weight. At 6'7 he should be able to put on weight over the next few years. Plus, we have Jenkins on first and second down, so Johnson would only need to be a speed rusher as a rookie.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Well I think a top 10 pick should be an every down player. Jenkins could move inside and produce the necessary pass rush up the middle while Johnson/Orakpo can be on the outside with Kampman bringing his own rush. That would be a beastly D-Line right there.
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toronto_cheesehead
16 years ago

Been watching video of Michael Johnson. He really wouldn't be a bad option if we traded down a few spots (or even if we didn't). He has a variety of moves, including a swim move and even a spin move. He holds the point well on running plays and doesn't give up the edge. Best of all, he seems to play with a high level of awareness.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



Michael Johnson (6'7") is taller than Brian Orakpo (6'4") and only weighs 2 lbs less (258 lbs). He is also a tenth of a second faster on the 40 yard dash.

Michael Johnson would be a good selection if Orakpo has already been taken off the board. In fact, that's who I want them to get if O-sack-po isn't there anymore.

"toronto_cheesehead" wrote:




I'm not too concerned with Johnson's weight. At 6'7 he should be able to put on weight over the next few years. Plus, we have Jenkins on first and second down, so Johnson would only need to be a speed rusher as a rookie.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



Well I think a top 10 pick should be an every down player. Jenkins could move inside and produce the necessary pass rush up the middle while Johnson/Orakpo can be on the outside with Kampman bringing his own rush. That would be a beastly D-Line right there.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



I agree. I guess it all depends on whether our scouts think Johnson can put on the weight to be an every down player or if he's destined to just be a pass rusher in the pros. Regardless of who they pick, getting a legitimate RDE will be essential to bringing this defense back to where it was last year.
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16 years ago
Michael Johnson is no push over in the run game....youtube him and watch some of his plays.
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