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10 years ago

If you watch Raji, Pickett and Jolly recently, they don’t get off blocks and they display no athleticism whatsoever. Instead of being explosive and immovable, they look lethargic and plodding.



It is not because of their size. it is because of their effort.
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10 years ago
I have to agree with the article. Jolly has been out of football for 3 years and finally hit a wall from lack of conditioning, Pickett is dinged up and father time finally caught him yet he continues to soldier on for the club. The one without an excuse is Raji. It's a pity we can't swap Pickett into his body.
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10 years ago
I honestly think we just need to switch to the 4-3 defense and let our defensive linemen make some plays rather than make them eat up space. Stop depending on our linebackers to make plays in the holes and let our big "run stuffers" do the stuffing in a 4-3 defense.

Raji was a monster as a 4-3 DT in college at BC. I think that plays to his strengths better. Get Nick Perry back down to his ways of playing college with his hand in the dirt rushing the passer. I'm sure Clay remembers how to do it as well. I definitely think our defense needs a culture change, and a move in the direction of a 4-3 should be the answer.
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10 years ago

I honestly think we just need to switch to the 4-3 defense and let our defensive linemen make some plays rather than make them eat up space. Stop depending on our linebackers to make plays in the holes and let our big "run stuffers" do the stuffing in a 4-3 defense.

Raji was a monster as a 4-3 DT in college at BC. I think that plays to his strengths better. Get Nick Perry back down to his ways of playing college with his hand in the dirt rushing the passer. I'm sure Clay remembers how to do it as well. I definitely think our defense needs a culture change, and a move in the direction of a 4-3 should be the answer.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



If I'm Capers, I'm running some kind of hybrid.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

To answer the question, YES they are FAT FAT FAT and still easily pushed around.

The reason our run defense was "good" before? Because when we had Aaron Rodgers playing, teams had to pass more - either playing catch up or just perceiving the need to pass/score more, hence less rushing attempts.

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Third in the league v the run is "good."

And it's not like we didn't face any good RBs/running threats.
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10 years ago


With the Packers moving to a more traditional 3-4 defense (which ask all base DL to run clog first) then no the DL is not too fat for that.

It's not that they'll too fat, it's that they're playing too poorly, and that's not because they're fat either because they were playing VERY well earlier on. But Jolly and Pickett have gotten injuries during the season which have made their play not nearly as consistant and I don't know what happen to Raji, but at times he's almost stood straight up out of his stance, which made him very easy to then push back.

And the back-ups run defense isn't good enough, to keep them in there against running teams.



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10 years ago
Here's a question for JerseyAl- Was Gilbert Brown "too fat"? He was listed at 340 or 350 wink wink. He still busted his butt on every play. There were times he wasn't as effective but those times were often injury related. It is not the size of the dog in the fight it is the size of the fight in the dog.
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DarkaneRules
10 years ago
Perhaps too hobbled. However I wonder about Raji separately from the older injured guys (Jolly,Pickett). Do you guys think his conditioning has suffered through the years? I am seeing a lot more hands on the hips from him.
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