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13 years ago
Packers New Defensive Line Could Be Scary
 


Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers is a master at putting players in a position to succeed.

Unlike other defensive coordinators, Capers isn’t tied to any alignments or formations. Although he’s a 3-4 coordinator, he adapts to the skill set of his players.
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gbguy20
13 years ago
Heres to hoping mike neal lives up to expectations.
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musccy
13 years ago
When I first read the title of this thread, I didn't know what was meant by 'scary.' We've seen so little of him, but Ted, the organization, and media already seem to assume Neal is an upgrade over Cullen. CJ and Howard Green seem like respectable replacements, but it's still a very unproven group aside from BJ/Pickett. I'm not sure I'd use 'scary' the way the author of the article did.
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13 years ago
1. The notion that Neal is an upgrade over Jenkins -- that just seems silly to me at this point. Long term he may be. But the bigger question, for 2011 at least, is whether Neal et al will provide as much as Jenkins did. I for one would be satisfied -- and, yes, a little surprised -- if they manage to do that.

2. I like the idea of moving Pickett back to nose and trying Raji outside. Some might remember my rants when they first moved Pickett to end. Raji proved to be much more than I thought he would be, and so that was good. But I thought then, and still do now, that keeping Pickett as end fails to fully utilize the Big Grease's strengths. Putting him inside more is a good thing. And unlike back then, when I was a bit skeptical of Raji altogether, now I think you might see something special happening when he plays DE just as you see something special when he plays nose.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

1. The notion that Neal is an upgrade over Jenkins -- that just seems silly to me at this point. Long term he may be. But the bigger question, for 2011 at least, is whether Neal et al will provide as much as Jenkins did. I for one would be satisfied -- and, yes, a little surprised -- if they manage to do that.

2. I like the idea of moving Pickett back to nose and trying Raji outside. Some might remember my rants when they first moved Pickett to end. Raji proved to be much more than I thought he would be, and so that was good. But I thought then, and still do now, that keeping Pickett as end fails to fully utilize the Big Grease's strengths. Putting him inside more is a good thing. And unlike back then, when I was a bit skeptical of Raji altogether, now I think you might see something special happening when he plays DE just as you see something special when he plays nose.

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1, B.J. Raji is taking over Cullen Jenkins spot, didn't you read the article at all?
2, You don't like the move, you're just balancing your bitch:agree ratio!

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This year’s version of the Eagle could see Raji in Jenkins’ old position, put Pickett back in his traditional spot and have Neal over the strong-side tackle.


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Stevetarded
13 years ago

When I first read the title of this thread, I didn't know what was meant by 'scary.' We've seen so little of him, but Ted, the organization, and media already seem to assume Neal is an upgrade over Cullen. CJ and Howard Green seem like respectable replacements, but it's still a very unproven group aside from BJ/Pickett. I'm not sure I'd use 'scary' the way the author of the article did.

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Well he didn't say they absolutely were scary he said that could be. Also isn't Raji going to be the one moving to Jenkins spot? I could certainly see him being an upgrade. I could also see Neal being an upgrade over Pickett at the other end.
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musccy
13 years ago
I don't dispute that they COULD be really good, but like I alluded to I'm much more nervous about this group than confident right now. It seems a little premature to suggest this group could or would be dominant.
Greg C.
13 years ago
I haven't heard anyone, let alone Ted Thompson, claim that Neal is an upgrade over Jenkins. I would like to know where you guys read that, because I don't believe it.
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Pack93z
13 years ago
On Paper, looking the returning members and looking at the work Neal put in this offseason.. I agree it looks to have much potential.

But I have so much respect for the way Capers coaches, to his players strengths, I have little doubt that we will get at bare minimum solid production out of this group.. and they have that potential to reach much higher.

What I love.. is that we have three legitimate Nose Tackles on the roster than affords us incredible flexibility. Most 3-4 clubs would relish 1 legitimate Nose. and here we are loaded with 3. This will allow Capers to be even more creative in shuffling these guys around on the line and apply pressure to the opposing offensive lines throughout the game. Rotate them.. keep them fresh and mix and match personnel by situation and match up. Love it.
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porky88
13 years ago
This is more about the Packers wanting to maximize player’s abilities and coaches’ creativity. The Packers like to teach their players to play multiple positions. We see it with Mike McCarthy on the offensive side of the ball with the OL and WRs. This is really not different. They’re attempting to create more opportunities to exploit matchups.

In passing situations, you want to create the easiest path to obstructing the QB. If Raji at DE does that, then I think that is the way to go. However, I would be surprised if Raji doesn't play NT as well. He's a perfect fit there and a mismatch for someone with a problematic interior OL. In many ways, it’s comparable to what Baltimore does with Haloti Ngata. He’ll lineup at nose and DE depending the situation and opponent.
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