DarkaneRules
11 years ago
His evaluation will certainly come as will that of quite a lot of our players. I still don't expect rebuilding mode, but it should be a pretty interesting off-season. I felt bad for football fans who had to watch this game today unless they were Lions fans of course haha
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shield4life
11 years ago
I think we've got more talent on this team then a lot of people think. Now obviously the whole team is not performing but I really think that our defensive coach just doesn't know how to utilize his players. Looking back his two first years, he had Charles Woodson & Nick Collins ... which at those year we're top 5 Safety & top 5 cb ... adding to those two was CM3 & Raji + emerging of Williams gave us the edge to win the SB. Sure we lost Woody, Collins and obviously no one can replace these guys but I feel like our coaching staff is not capable of using them to there best of their abilities.

Also, these injuries keep racking up which doesn't help us ... maybe get some new trainers.

Our #1 weak spot is the offensive line and by fixing this, it will be the key of success. If we keep scoring, other teams are going to rely on the pass more then actually pounding our defense over & over with the run & running down the clock. Let's all agree to disagree, we've got better chances turning over the ball in those situation if we can also upgrade our defensive line. We need some attitude on that d-line.

#2 we need a very good safety!!!

Please for the love of god fire Capers.
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11 years ago

I think we've got more talent on this team then a lot of people think. Now obviously the whole team is not performing but I really think that our defensive coach just doesn't know how to utilize his players. Looking back his two first years, he had Charles Woodson & Nick Collins ... which at those year we're top 5 Safety & top 5 cb ... adding to those two was CM3 & Raji + emerging of Williams gave us the edge to win the SB. Sure we lost Woody, Collins and obviously no one can replace these guys but I feel like our coaching staff is not capable of using them to there best of their abilities.

Also, these injuries keep racking up which doesn't help us ... maybe get some new trainers.

Our #1 weak spot is the offensive line and by fixing this, it will be the key of success. If we keep scoring, other teams are going to rely on the pass more then actually pounding our defense over & over with the run & running down the clock. Let's all agree to disagree, we've got better chances turning over the ball in those situation if we can also upgrade our defensive line. We need some attitude on that d-line.

#2 we need a very good safety!!!

Please for the love of god fire Capers.

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Our greatest need is safety, imo. We got guys on the oline, but they're injured.

Sherrod wasn't looking to great from what I could tell. But we'll get Bulaga back next year.

I think they should be repping Banjo and Hyde at S, see what they got.
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11 years ago

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This I have to agree with and is why I want Kevin Greene to be bumped up to Assistant DC and/or a defensive coordinator that doesn't just sit there like a corpse in the booth. These guys play with no passion or attitude in this defense because they never get their asses chewed out for missing tackles and blowing assignments. I can't remember a defense that was great or even real good that didn't walk with a certain cockiness/swagger and an attitude of "don't fuck with us!" I guess that was the biggest thing we lost when we let Woodson go.
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DarkaneRules
11 years ago
They also don't have swagger because right when they sit down to take a break our offense goes three and out and they have to get right back on the field again.
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play2win
11 years ago
I want Dom Capers gone today. He has done nothing to help this team since Rodgers went down, when we needed him most. Add to that, the embarrassment of D play that he has trot onto the field at crucial moments over these past 3 seasons.

Rodgers went down 5 weeks ago. We lost all 5 games. We have no attitude on D, unless you want to count a willingness to fail… I don't!

This is bad. Really bad.
Zero2Cool
11 years ago

Rodgers went down 5 weeks ago. We lost all 5 games. We have no attitude on D, unless you want to count a willingness to fail… I don't!

This is bad. Really bad.

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If that were true, the Packers would be 5 - 7, but instead they are 5 - 6 - 1.

I'd like to see the defense operated by Winston Moss. I'd like to see why he's held in such high value to be called assistant head coach.
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11 years ago

They also don't have swagger because right when they sit down to take a break our offense goes three and out and they have to get right back on the field again.

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The Lions received the ball first at their 22 yard line and march down to the GB 12 yard line on 9 plays on fumbled the ball away. Their second possession starting on their 11 yard line after a 7 play GB drive saw them march on 11 plays down to the GB 9 yard line and settle for a FG.

This defense was getting beat from the get-go yesterday. And if they're worn out before 1 quarter of play then our strength and conditioning is worse than a high school team.
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Oh make no mistake I know our defense has gotten shitier by the week. Believe me haha
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