Where Do We Stack Up?· Page 3

dhazer
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Bulaga's fine. He's very good. Then you got Sitton and Lang, both playing VERY well this year. EDS to me is a good backup. He's playing "adequately."

How many teams could be down to their 5th tackle and still be in the race? Please.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

How many teams are this soft that they are injured all the time?

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

dhazer
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#22

How many teams are this soft that they are injured all the time?

I think I figured it out Favre after he was forced out of Green Bay by Ted Thompson went to a witch Doctor down their in the bayou and had a spell put on the Packers :)

Originally Posted by: dhazer

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

You didn't address the shoddy way Bulaga played last year. As for the guards and center, I ask, what happened literally every time we lined up and tried to run without deception - even with extra blockers - the inverted wishbone, etc. As good as Lacy is, he got nowhere. That's on the O-Line, and that's on TT. And even worse, pass blocking - it's almost a crime to have a QB like Rodgers and protect him so poorly. Yeah, he throws on the run like nobody else, but he shouldn't have to all the time.

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steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#24

hahaha you can only throw to one receiver at a time. I can only dream how good Aaron Rodgers would be if we had one of those big three (make it four - the other Johnson is pretty damn good too - make it five, as Dez Bryant is outstanding also - make that six - I almost forgot A.J. Green). I'd put Jordy Nelson as a solid seventh behind that top six.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Any WR usually only gets 5-10 passes a game. With QBs throwing 30-40 passes that makes 20-30 passes going to another WR. So yeah you can only throw to 1 at a time but even Calvin Johnson only accounts for 30ish % of his teams passing. The rest is on those other guys that you seem to be completely discounting.

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#25

Bulaga had 1 real bad game last year (Throw in SF and IND and call it 3 total). In the 8 games he played in besides SEA he gave up 2 sacks. He wasn't as bad on the season as some people say. He's significantly better than Barclay at RT and probably better than Bakhtiari at LT. If anything he would probably have made our running ability even better. Losing him was a big loss don't downplay it so much.

Also, with Bulaga starting if the other T gets hurt then right now either Bakhtiari or Barclay is playing instead of Newhouse and I don't have to tell you how big of a difference that is.

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#26

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

That's on Mike dipshit. We were running against 8-9 in the box.

Bulaga was messed up last year, and he still got it done. This team has more depth than any group I've ever seen in my life.

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QCHuskerFan
Member

11 years ago

#27

Well how can you go with we have a great receiving group because we have 4 guys with 29 catches, That is because of injuries. How many games has cobb and jones missed and if I remember right wasn't Jordy out a few games also. Btw I forgot Denver they would be #1 by far.

I made my list on what I would think would be tops with Rodgers at QB for any of them.

Granted Denver would be about the same but imagine teams like the Bengals and Arizona with Rodgers under center.

Also is it the players or the system maybe we should look no farther than Jennings going to Minnesota.

I also just thought of an honorable mention and thats the Seahawks. They could be scary Harvin,Rice, Tate and Baldwin

Originally Posted by: dhazer

We have 4 WR with at least 29 catches in spite of injury. Yes, Cobb and Jones have missed time, but they have had a collection of misfits throwing them the ball for more than a third of the season.

Jennings's number are not a lot different than last year. Granted, he was injured a lot last year. But is his performance this year due to not having Rodgers or not having Nelson, Cobb and Jones to distract defenses?

The Packers have the #5 passing offense in the NFL. That is without much of a receiving threat in the backfield. And with someone besides Rodgers throwing 37% of the season's passes. Hard to do that without Top 5 WR. In my opinion.

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QCHuskerFan
Member

11 years ago

#28

The Packers have the #2 offense in the NFL. That is with a Backup QB for more than 1/3 of the season. Can anyone explain to me how they can do that if the line is so bad? Cobb out. Finley out. Rodgers out. Bulaga out. Lacy, Franklin, Jones, and Starks each missing games.

And yet #2?

The line is above average. They are not why we have lost 5 games.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

#29

Only seven teams have scored more points than the Packers, which means they have the eighth ranked offense in the NFL.

But if you think yards are important ...

Total Offense = 2nd
Passing Offense = 5th
Rushing Offense = 5th

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#30

And yet we lost three and tied one against teams we shoulda beat since Aaron Rodgers went down. Nobody would care about giving up 26 or 27 points a game if Rodgers was there and we were outscoring teams.

Nobody wants to defend where any of our position groups stack up except WR? Fine, but as somebody said, it is what it is. People want to blame Capers? I say again, when you don't have the personnel to stop everything, you have to do some guessing - scheme to stop what you think the other team will throw at you. That isn't ideal, but it's reality.

Some people are getting all orgasmic about Kevin Greene? Getting fired up like some WWE thing may be what some people like to see, but it ain't what wins games. Clay Matthews said the biggest Packer problem is gap protection - THAT means discipline/brains, NOT over-pursuing and giving up big gains, which is what being fired up leads to. I prefer a thinker to a wrestler designing our defense.

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beast (19h) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won

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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol

Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???

Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Yeah baby!

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.

beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?

beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.

beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games

beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality

beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread

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