Scott Tolzien to start against Vikings· Page 3

The_Green_Ninja
Senior Member

11 years ago

#21

I really miss Aaron Rodgers.

luigis
Member

11 years ago

#22

I believe the gameplan is critical to win against the Vikes.
Against the Giants Mike McCarthy started with a "run run pass" approach designed to shout that he didn't trust his QB.
When needed he changed to a more agressive approach but then it was too late and the critical turnovers happened.

What Tolzien will be asked to do will be more important than his actual performance. It will mold the whole game.

It's critical to take Peterson out of the game, so I expect Mike McCarthy to NOT defer if he wins the toss and start very aggresive
trying to get ahead early in the game.

It will be a chess game and I'm happy to be playing against Frazier.

Luis

Reignman
Registered

11 years ago

#23

I do not believe we need Aaron to beat the Queens.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

This right here. I agree with nerdmann for once xD. Playing our swiss cheese defense, Tolzien will do just fine. And you don't have to worry about INT's, the Vikings are pretty bad in that department. The few INT's that we do have have come on tipped balls, and we only have 1 INT from a CB all year.

You're going to win anyway, I mean come on, Ponder is starting. You've seen him play before right? So it's a good game to give Rodgers additional rest. Besides I'm really really tired of watching him carve up our cover 0 defense and going 28/30 for 350 and 4 TD's. My nerves can't take it anymore xD. I'd rather lose to a rookie than see Rodgers with his "oh that's right, I'm playing the Vikings defense" smirk on his face again lol.

Dulak
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#24

True, if Mike keeps calling plays like he did last week. Do you think he's going to keep doing that?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

What plays are you referring too? ... I saw how lacey couldnt really run vs the giants and I also saw how tolzien threw 3 picks. I dont blame Mike McCarthy trying to run the ball with lacey since he had a lot of success previously.

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#25

Originally Posted by: Dulak

The Giants D was putting 8-9 guys in the box.

You don't keeping running against that. And you don't keep throwing 1 yard passes against that. Or JPP takes one to the house.

Mike set Scott up to fail, plain and simple.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#26

I saw players setting themselves up to fail. There is a play Mike from Packers.com points out where two players block the same guy. That is a mistake in player execution and you can be damn sure they didn't draw it up that way. I don't always make passes for coaches, but I have an expectation that in-season we believe they are putting our players in the best position to make a play. It is up to them to make it.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

Cheesey
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#27

True, if Mike keeps calling plays like he did last week. Do you think he's going to keep doing that?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I don't know......getting into the red zone via passing, then handing the ball off twice (which the running game was NOT working) will set them up to fail every time.
Stay with what GOT you to that point, and ONLY give up on it when it stops working.
WHY is it so hard for the coaches to SEE that???

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#28

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

It's not like passing with Tolzien in the red zone has worked out so great either. Passing in the red zone is a completely different animal than completing a 40 yard bomb.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#29

It's not like passing with Tolzien in the red zone has worked out so great either. Passing in the red zone is a completely different animal than completing a 40 yard bomb.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Yes, he did throw that INT. But at least it looked like there was a CHANCE to score. And that play should NOT have been called for a new QB in the 1st place. That's a timing thing that has way to much chance for failure for a guy that's not familiar with the WR's and playbook.

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#30

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Not just the INT we've had 3 or 4 other drives stall out while passing down there.

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