nerdmann
11 years ago
If you don't think you can get it done, you shouldn't be on the field.

At least let Tolzien takes some reps during the week, if you're gonna bitch out on the first series. Jay Cutler, without the arm. Or the height.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DoddPower
11 years ago

If you don't think you can get it done, you shouldn't be on the field.

At least let Tolzien takes some reps during the week, if you're gonna bitch out on the first series. Jay Cutler, without the arm. Or the height.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



But I thought you said he was going to be so effective running the dink and dunk offense?
nerdmann
11 years ago

But I thought you said he was going to be so effective running the dink and dunk offense?

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



The offense was remarkably efficient, no?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
StoicFire
11 years ago
I was excited to see what Wallace could do after a week of game-planning and reps with the ones. Turns out I never really got to find out. Really tough break having to bring in a backup early in the first quarter in consecutive weeks.

That being said, I'd really hate to look like a Bears fan by ripping into an injured player for following the suggestions of the medical staff and staying on the sideline. I have trouble believing his will to play was the issue. My guess is he was actually hurt.

All things considered though, I thought Tolzien played relatively well. Sure he stared down his receivers, and sure many of his throws were a little behind, but he gave us a chance.

I don't think Seneca Wallace lost this game for us. The defense underperformed badly when we needed them, and the refs didn't help us out much either. This one certainly hurts.
"the Quarterback can run if he wants to, but with this rocket attached to your body... who would?" -Aaron Rodgers
luigis
11 years ago
Call me crazy but:

In practice MM sees Wallace can't really throw the long ball any more.
He goes and says "Seneca I need to bench him but let's play 1 series and then say you get injured"

Tolzien was too ready to play, Seneca was too confortable to be out of the game... Did he look furious? No Did he jump all around asking to return? No. Everything was too strange to my eyes.

This was all staged, I'm probably way wrong but I can't stop thinking about it.


Edit: And now MM names Tolzien the starter against the Giants regardless of Wallace's status.
Luis
nerdmann
11 years ago

Call me crazy but:

In practice Mike McCarthy sees Wallace can't really throw the long ball any more.
He goes and says "Seneca I need to bench him but let's play 1 series and then say you get injured"

Tolzien was too ready to play, Seneca was too confortable to be out of the game... Did he look furious? No Did he jump all around asking to return? No. Everything was too strange to my eyes.

This was all staged, I'm probably way wrong but I can't stop thinking about it.


Edit: And now Mike McCarthy names Tolzien the starter against the Giants regardless of Wallace's status.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



Word is in postgame press conference, Mike was furious when he named Tolzien the starter.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
rabidgopher04
11 years ago

Word is in postgame press conference, Mike was furious when he named Tolzien the starter.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Furious in what way?
Amazing Bacon Delivery  Service! Never be without good bacon again.
luigis
11 years ago

Word is in postgame press conference, Mike was furious when he named Tolzien the starter.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



That was the cherry in the cake. MM is such a bad actor, really... I think this was all staged. Maybe because that's better for Wallace.

Luis
beast
11 years ago


Call me crazy but:

This was all staged, I'm probably way wrong but I can't stop thinking about it.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



Wow, really? SMH... Seems like there is a comparative theory for everything theses days.


I can't see Wallace (or anyone else) giving up the money and playingtime just for the sake of others and even if it's only back-up money or minmum NFL vet wage, that's still a good bit and Wallace knew if he showed very well he's probably be getting NFL try out offers for the next 2 or 3 years. I can't see him giving all that up.


And why would MM waste the time and reps with Wallace if he thought another QB was better?





UserPostedImage
Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member
11 years ago

Word is in postgame press conference, Mike was furious when he named Tolzien the starter.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Furious with Wallace?

Where does this come from? Sounds like some stupid-ass media comment.

I can see him being furious: (i) at the defense; (ii) at the officials; (iii) at Capers; (iv) at the useless defense who let a Chip Kelly offense take the last 9 1/2 minutes.

But I can't see why he'd be mad at Wallace or why any of the above mads would make him to declare Tolzein the starter.

Or was he declaring that Tolzein would be the starting defensive coordinator? [grin1]


And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Zero, regarding Woodson, that'd why I find the timing with Williams peculiar
dfosterf (15-May) : Ryan Hall y'all does a great job of tracking thesr
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Fear not!! I planned to do 33mi bike ride tomorrow morning, so ... yeah
Zero2Cool (15-May) : We got some dark clouds and nasty winds right bout now.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Madison they had hail 4pm.
dfosterf (15-May) : Sure looks like these tornadoes are headed towards Green Bay
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Woodson of Charles fame was reluctant and then loved it. that didn't really come out until post career
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : IE "We bought into the Bears and they let us down, we have no choice to seek alternatives"
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Or that Williams and his family are preparing an exit ramp if they don't like how things are going in a few years
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Either Williams thought it would make him look good (reluctant but then embraces the city and franchise)
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : I can only assume that the Williams camp agreed to cooperate with that article tells me 2 things
dfosterf (15-May) : Ya. They are in a great mood
Zero2Cool (15-May) : I should visit again
dfosterf (15-May) : ChiCity Sports entering freakout mode due to Caleb and his dad not wanting him to go there
Zero2Cool (15-May) : "He's looking really good out there," Derrick Ansley said of Kalen King. Adds that he's been playing inside and out.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Him saying he doesn't have one to give haha
Zero2Cool (15-May) : True, that was awesome. The whole F thing was great actually.
dfosterf (15-May) : I did like the Mark Murphy part, sorta
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Some comments on it saying it was great, amazing... I came away thinking... awkward.
dfosterf (15-May) : Packers schedule release video is "interesting" I guess.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : SOOO glad that tool still works. Saves from manually entering each game
Zero2Cool (15-May) : NFL Pick'em import was done last night.
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Atlanta with 5 primetime games lol
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Week Five BYE?? NFL is hell.
wpr (14-May) : Vikings schedule leaked. Week 12 in GB. Week 18 in MN.
wpr (14-May) : CBS has GB @ NYG Week 11 Nov 16 and they will face MN in week 18 but don't say where. I think away
Zero2Cool (14-May) : W15: Packers at Broncos
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Ben Sirmans on MarShawn Lloyd: “Everything’s full go for him.”
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Luke Butkus says training camp will allow plenty of time to implement new center Elgton Jenkins
Zero2Cool (14-May) : wk 2 commanders at packers
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Ugh. Packers thanksgiving detroit ...boring
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Panthers at Green Bay in week 9, Nov 2nd
buckeyepackfan (14-May) : Week 1
buckeyepackfan (14-May) : Packers Host Detroit Week 1! ML finally gets a week home opener.
beast (13-May) : I was kind of hoping Douglas might come back to the Pack
beast (13-May) : My question is how much do we trust Jenkins? In bad weather, he seemed to struggle a bit with ball control snapping, though he started at OG
beast (13-May) : Well Jenkins probably knows he's not getting that 2026 salary number without a new contact... so just trying to get the new contact early
Zero2Cool (13-May) : CB Rasul Douglas is visiting the #Seahawks today, per source.
dfosterf (13-May) : He's a switch and baiter. Its the same as a bait and switcher except he agreed to the switch first lol
dfosterf (13-May) : 6.8 mil raise next year. Those are existing contract numbers
dfosterf (13-May) : 12.8 plus 4.8 pro rata signing bonus is 17.6 mil. Top center in the league at 18
Zero2Cool (13-May) : Elgton Jenkins wants to rework contract ahead of position change to center
Zero2Cool (13-May) : 🏈Monday, Nov. 10: Eagles at Packers
buckeyepackfan (12-May) : Packers @ Bears week 16(Saturday Game)
Zero2Cool (12-May) : Clifford hasn't been the same since losing 8
dfosterf (12-May) : Sean Clifford would probably disagree
dfosterf (12-May) : Canuck Cannon. Got a very good feeling about this
Zero2Cool (12-May) : Tom Pelissero also reports what bboy stated
bboystyle (12-May) : The Green Bay Packers on Monday signed Taylor Elgersma, the Canadian-born quarterback who tried out at the team’s rookie camp last weekend
beast (12-May) : There were reports four days ago that the Packers were signing QB Taylor Elgersma, but no official action since
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

16-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

15-May / Random Babble / Martha Careful

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

14-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / nyrpack

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

12-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.