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11 years ago

Green Bay --- So maybe T.J. Lang will play after all.

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it takes the play of Newhouse to make Lang look good.
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steveishere
11 years ago
No it doesn't. Lang has been great this season.
DakotaT
11 years ago
Barclay is the weak link on our O-line this year. He has done an admirable job, but is definitely not our future at RT. At best he will make a fine utility lineman.

I'm looking forward to training camp next season because I think both tackle positions should be up for grabs as well as center. Only Lang and Sitton should be penciled in as starts. I really think Bahktiari should start, but I'm not convinced it should be at Left Tackle when we have 2 injured players with higher pedigree coming back. Peppers did have a big game against David after all.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
According to PFF

Tackle ratings out of 39 that have played 75% snaps
Don Barclay 29th
David Bakhtiari 35th


Guard ratings out of 41 that have played 75% snaps
Josh Sitton 3rd (Daryn Colledge isn't far behind in the ratings...hmm no surprise here!)
T.J. Lang 14th


Center ratings out of 24 that have played 75% snaps
Evan Dietrich-Smith 11th
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DakotaT
11 years ago

According to PFF

Tackle ratings out of 39 that have played 75% snaps
Don Barclay 29th
David Bakhtiari 35th


Guard ratings out of 41 that have played 75% snaps
Josh Sitton 3rd (Daryn Colledge isn't far behind in the ratings...hmm no surprise here!)
T.J. Lang 14th


Center ratings out of 24 that have played 75% snaps
Evan Dietrich-Smith 11th

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I know you're a big stats guy and all, but tell me Einstein, who missed the block that landed our all universe quarterback on the inactive list? Did you happen to watch the effort given on that blocking assignment?
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steveishere
11 years ago

I know you're a big stats guy and all, but tell me Einstein, who missed the block that landed our all universe quarterback on the inactive list? Did you happen to watch the effort given on that blocking assignment?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Nobody missed "that block" Barclay gave Rodgers a clean pocket on that play he doesn't know Rodgers is running up there. That injury is 100% on Rodgers misjudging his athletic ability, he got run down from behind. It wasn't poor effort from Barclay because he was sitting back on his heels to keep the pocket clean. Barclay hasn't been very good lately at all and the reason his "score" is higher than Bakhtiari is run blocking. They have equal scores in pass blocking and Bakhtiari has faced much tougher match ups so his pass blocking over all has actually been much better. The hit that injured Rodgers however has nothing to do with Barclay's blocking putting that on him is lame.
DakotaT
11 years ago

Nobody missed "that block" Barclay gave Rodgers a clean pocket on that play he doesn't know Rodgers is running up there. That injury is 100% on Rodgers misjudging his athletic ability, he got run down from behind. It wasn't poor effort from Barclay because he was sitting back on his heels to keep the pocket clean. Barclay hasn't been very good lately at all and the reason his "score" is higher than Bakhtiari is run blocking. They have equal scores in pass blocking and Bakhtiari has faced much tougher match ups so his pass blocking over all has actually been much better. The hit that injured Rodgers however has nothing to do with Barclay's blocking putting that on him is lame.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



🙄

So you can't finish off a block, because you did your job providing a pocket. Barclay's man was McClellun, who kept playing when Barclay decided his job was over.
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steveishere
11 years ago

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So you can't finish off a block, because you did your job providing a pocket. Barclay's man was McClellun, who kept playing when Barclay decided his job was over.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



You don't "finish off a block" pass blocking you hold your spot and provide a clean pocket. If a guy lets off on his bull rush you let him. Rodgers ran out of that pocket too close to the Bears player and wasn't fast enough to get away from him. Barclay's job wasn't to drive the defender backwards it was to keep him from collapsing the pocket.

[duh]
DarkaneRules
11 years ago
I don't know about the majority of fans, but I definitely put the Rodgers injury on his shoulders alone. But it happened and we need to get past it now and rally behind Wallace and our team
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
buckeyepackfan
11 years ago

You don't "finish off a block" pass blocking you hold your spot and provide a clean pocket. If a guy lets off on his bull rush you let him. Rodgers ran out of that pocket too close to the Bears player and wasn't fast enough to get away from him. Barclay's job wasn't to drive the defender backwards it was to keep him from collapsing the pocket.

[duh]

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Steveis here....give it up, there are some on this forum who come here just to argue, they will never be wrong, no matter how obvious the play was.

They are better at coaching and better at being the GM(in their minds), than what the Packers currently have.

They know everything there is about football, and are never going to admit they are wrong.

Barclay's only option at the time, after he finished his assignment was to grab ahold of the defender and hold.

Barclay had done his job forcing the man back beyond Aaron, his back was turned to Aaron when he broke the pocket and started to scramble, the defender who was facing Aaron saw this and did his job by changing directions and pursuing. Barclay's momentum had him going the other way, his only option would have been to grab the guy and hold, but considering the fact that Aaron has been real successful in scrambling he let the guy go.

Bad break, when he made the tackle, but of course some will blame Barclay for this play 5 years from now, only remembering this one play and use it as a standard when talking about Barclay.

I'm sure if Barclay could have known in advance the results of the play, that he would have held his man and taken the 10yd penalty. But unlike some on here he doesn't know what is going to happen until it actually plays out.
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