slaket
16 years ago


We didn't have that many injury

"go.pack.go." wrote:



Do explain, mister.... :whipitgood:

"slaket" wrote:



Since I guess you can prove me wrong, why don't you lay some evidence on me how they we were decimated by injuries.

or you can just lay out a random question followed by a emoticon.....

I enjoy learning things but if you don't add some numbers how the hell am i supposed to get what you are saying?
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago

We didn't have any more than a average amount of injuries this year. Show me something that says we had a lot of injuries. I'm going by the IR. Who did we lose? four major players? None of which had a solid backup.

"slaket" wrote:



Our two best CBs were injured. Badly. One missed 6 weeks, the other was playing on a broken toe, which no doubt limited him.

Our pro-bowl Safety (Collins) was playing with pain in his back and left leg, enough to hamper his play (late getting to his spots).

Our starting LB (Hawk) had chest and groin issues for first half of the season for sure. His play suggests that he may have played with injuries that weren't disclosed. Another starting LB (Chillar) had biceps and groin injuries. Ryan Pickett was playing with an elbow injury that limited how much he could bend his arm. Jolly has been playing with a sprained knee.


A couple of weeks ago, the Packers listed something like 18 players on their injury report. By far the most of any team this season.

Greg Bedard of the JSOnline noted as the Bears' game approached that this team was visibly different in practice having so many players practicing. He noted how most of the season until then it was the back-ups getting the reps with the first team, which produced lower quality of practices than the practices leading up to the trashing of the Bears.


A much more useful retort slaket would've been that the Pats were 11-5 with 14 players on the Injured Reserve. At least provide some stats of the average number of players on IR each team has before completely dismissing the claim that the Packers suffered because of their injuries.
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longtimefan
16 years ago


We didn't have that many injury

"slaket" wrote:



Do explain, mister.... :whipitgood:

"go.pack.go." wrote:



Since I guess you can prove me wrong, why don't you lay some evidence on me how they we were decimated by injuries.

or you can just lay out a random question followed by a emoticon.....

I enjoy learning things but if you don't add some numbers how the hell am i supposed to get what you are saying?

"slaket" wrote:



Idid this once before buts its fun to do it again

defensive starters for last game

Kampman
Pickett
Montgomery
Jolly
Brady Pop
Hawk
Chillar
Woodson
Harris
Rouse
Collins

Last year for the NFCCG

Kampman
Pickett

Williams <<<
Jenkins <<<INJURED


Brady Pop
Barnett <<< INJURED
Hawk

Woodson
Harris
Bigby <<< INJURED
Collins


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

3 out for lot of the season, not including Harris out for a while as well.

So thats about 4

I would say 4 out of 11 is a good chunk yes?
slaket
16 years ago
How many out of of those 4 were able to be replaced with a decent quality player? This thread is about TT. Why didn't he have any depth on defense?
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HoustonMatt
16 years ago



We didn't have any more than a average amount of injuries this year. Show me something that says we had a lot of injuries. I'm going by the IR. Who did we lose? four major players? None of which had a solid backup.

That's where Ted Thompson deserves the blame. Maybe if he added some depth rather than trying to be the youngest team every year the Packer could've overcome some of those injuries.

It's really not a reach to blame Ted Thompson for the lack of depth. After all it's his job to add and remove personnel.

"slaket" wrote:



The only place I'll agree that we didn't have acceptable depth was at DE. If you want to fault Ted Thompson for that, fine. But you could just as easily argue that KGB, Thompson, and Montgomery were sufficient depth and that KGB's rapid decline and Thompson's injury problems were no fault of TT.

Tramon proved we had plenty of CB depth to step in for Al. Rouse for Atari. Bishop for Nick. OL flexibility to maneuver through the nicks they had all year.

Only in NY Yankeeland where you can buy 5 starting caliber OFers can you say this team didn't have proper depth.

Some of you people are starting to annoy me to a point beyond rationality.
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blueleopard
16 years ago
Bring Bates back, and get some defensive linemen that can actually push people.
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slaket
16 years ago



We didn't have any more than a average amount of injuries this year. Show me something that says we had a lot of injuries. I'm going by the IR. Who did we lose? four major players? None of which had a solid backup.

That's where Ted Thompson deserves the blame. Maybe if he added some depth rather than trying to be the youngest team every year the Packer could've overcome some of those injuries.

It's really not a reach to blame Ted Thompson for the lack of depth. After all it's his job to add and remove personnel.

"mattresell" wrote:



The only place I'll agree that we didn't have acceptable depth was at DE. If you want to fault Ted Thompson for that, fine. But you could just as easily argue that KGB, Thompson, and Montgomery were sufficient depth and that KGB's rapid decline and Thompson's injury problems were no fault of Ted Thompson.

Tramon proved we had plenty of CB depth to step in for Al. Rouse for Atari. Bishop for Nick. OL flexibility to maneuver through the nicks they had all year.

Only in NY Yankeeland where you can buy 5 starting caliber OFers can you say this team didn't have proper depth.

Some of you people are starting to annoy me to a point beyond rationality.

"slaket" wrote:



Weren't we like 20 million under the cap? Seems to me we could have afforded some more depth.

I getting really tired of apologists. And people that don't hold people accountable for a bad job. It's like I just kicked your dog or something.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago

Weren't we like 20 million under the cap? Seems to me we could have afforded some more depth.

"slaket" wrote:



There are only so many players you can have at any given position. There are only 53 slots on the active roster. That's an average of 1.2 players per position on the field. If you go deep at one position, you MUST sacrifice depth at another.

Give a little thought before you post senseless rants, or you'll come across as the latest in the long line of irrational, foaming-at-the-mouth Thompson bashers.
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago
slaket, you still refuse to state the point that'd help you the most: the Pats had 14 players on IR, yet finished 11-5. They did it without their best playmaker (arguably) to boot.

Oh yeah, we're closer to a few million (around 3 if I'm not mistaken) since Aaron Rodgers contract counted for 20 million of cap space in the 08-09 season.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
It never occurs to these people that Ted Thompson deliberately saved some of that cap room so that he could reward Rodgers with a hefty front-loaded contract this season, which would minimize his cap hit in later years and freeing us up to sign more of our free agents next season.
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