Time to talk about Scott Tolzien?· Page 3

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

11 years ago

As for Coleman, I don't know if he got rattled or what - that seems doubtful, but even so, it is easily curable/teachable, and he had the arm of an NFL QB. Lack of arm strength, lack of size, and it seemed like even lack of speed like Wallace is not curable. The guy was just worthless (I'm still open to being proved wrong on that if we are unfortunate enough to have him start against the Eagles, but I don't think there's much chance he will be any good). As for Vince Young, he could make plays running, and he clearly threw the ball extremely better than Wallace, even though he was rusty and not on target like he should be. At least he had the arm strength that there was hope. Maybe the Packers staff knew something about drugs or mental problems that never came out to the public, I don't know, but he ran like Kaepernick at times in the preseason, and combining that alone with Lacy's running probably would have been enough to beat the Bears, not to mention, he's tall enough to throw over Julius Peppers.

As for ties to Texas, I don't give a damn about that, especially U.T. - my roots are in Wisconsin - the Badgers. Tolzien? There you may have a point.

Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#22

As for Coleman, I don't know if he got rattled or what - that seems doubtful, but even so, it is easily curable/teachable, and he had the arm of an NFL QB. Lack of arm strength, lack of size, and it seemed like even lack of speed like Wallace is not curable.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

"Easily" huh, I guess that explains why Colemans career is already over and Wallace has played for 10 years. So he wasn't rattled and he has an NFL arm and size and he should have known the offense pretty well but he looked like one of the worst preseason QBs we've had in there in a while. Wallace vs Chicago looked 10x better than Coleman ever has.

sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

#23

I don't remember the preseason all that well, but I don't remember Vince Young knocking anybody's socks off. Is it possible you favor him because of his ties to Texas? The same as some posters who (unconsciously or consciously) favor former Badgers?

Originally Posted by: olds70supreme

Or former Buckeyes playing linebacker.

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#24

"["Easily" huh, I guess that explains why Colemans career is already over and Wallace has played for 10 years. So he wasn't rattled and he has an NFL arm and size and he should have known the offense pretty well but he looked like one of the worst preseason QBs we've had in there in a while. Wallace vs Chicago looked 10x better than Coleman ever has.]"

You really think so, Steve? Better than Coleman? 10xbetter? Uh I'm afraid we are gonna have another opportunity to find out against the Eagles. 😞

Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#25

Or former Buckeyes playing linebacker.

Originally Posted by: sschind

:-k 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[-x

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

VinceLambeauStarr
Member

11 years ago

#26

Unless Seneca Wallace has an absolute horror show, I can envision a dogged approach to making it work until he is back.

And it makes sense too.

as g.p.g said, more often than not, throwing someone in on very little source evidence fails most of the time.

I hope Wallace gets' his chance, and if he screws up, NEXT MAN UP!

Zero2Cool is my captain.

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#27

Somebody said Wallace was good as a starter in the past?

6 wins, 15 losses is his record - and that was before sitting out most of two years.

How did Ted Thompson ever stick us with this lemon?

Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.

luigis
Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#28

Somebody said Wallace was good as a starter in the past?

6 wins, 15 losses is his record - and that was before sitting out most of two years.

How did Ted Thompson ever stick us with this lemon?

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

I think it was a calculated gamble that worked badly.

Wallace is very good at mimicking the opponent's QB, he has been doing that in practices since he joined the Packers to help prepare the defense. Unfortunately he's been practicing being Brandon Weeden and Christian Ponder instead of Tom Brady or Payton Manning. That was clear in the Bears' game.

Luis

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#29

Somebody said Wallace was good as a starter in the past?

6 wins, 15 losses is his record - and that was before sitting out most of two years.

How did Ted Thompson ever stick us with this lemon?

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

He has more losses than wins, but for most of those games, he hasn't been on contending teams.

He is now. He's gonna have weapons.

He will also have a week to take some reps with the starters. Could do him a world of good, although it is a short week.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

#30

Originally Posted by: luigis

Worked badly in one game that he had no preparation for. There is no evidence based on recent (read pre-season) performance that Young or Harrell or Coleman would have done any better.

I won't go so far as to say Wallace was the better choice since we have no way of knowing that but since we have no way of knowing that I also won't go so far as to say any of the other three would have been a better choice. Only gifted psychics (or is it psychos) know that.

When the whole Wallace experience is over the best we will be able to say regarding the choice Ted Thompson made for backup is that he was not the best choice (hopefully that won't be the case). Only guys like TPB will know for sure that one of the other guys would have been better.

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

dfosterf (3-Jul) : Make sure to send my props to him! A plus move!

Zero2Cool (3-Jul) : My cousin, yes.

dfosterf (3-Jul) : That was your brother the GB press gazette referenced with the red cross draft props thing, yes?

Zero2Cool (2-Jul) : Packers gonna unveil new throwback helmet in few weeks.

Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : I know it's Kleiman but this stuff writes itself

Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : "Make sure she signs the NDA before asking for a Happy Ending!"

Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : @NFL_DovKleiman Powerful: Deshaun Watson is taking Shedeur Sanders 'under his wing' as a mentor to the Browns QBs

Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Dolphins get (back) Minkah Fitzpatrick in trade

Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Steelers land Jalen Ramsey via Trade

dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us

dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.

wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.

Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year

dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot

dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.

dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year

dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.

Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?

Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason

Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”

Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.

Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.

Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH

beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.

Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law

Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter

Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter

Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp

dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night

dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60

dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO

Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : one year $4m with incentives to make it up to $6m

dfosterf (18-Jun) : Or Lions

dfosterf (18-Jun) : Beats the hell out of a Vikings signing

Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : Baltimore Ravens now have signed former Packers CB Jaire Alexander.

dfosterf (14-Jun) : TWO magnificent strikes for touchdowns. Lose the pennstate semigeezer non nfl backup

dfosterf (14-Jun) : There was minicamp Thursday. My man Taylor Engersma threw

dfosterf (11-Jun) : There will be a mini camp practice Thursday.

Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : He's been sporting a ring for a while now. It's probably Madonna.

Martha Careful (10-Jun) : We only do the tea before whoopee, it relaxes me.

wpr (10-Jun) : That's awesome Martha.

Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : How's the ayahuasca tea he makes, Martha?

Martha Careful (10-Jun) : Turns out he like older women

Martha Careful (10-Jun) : I wasn't supposed to say anything, but yes the word is out and we are happy 😂😂😂

Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : I might be late on this but Aaron Rodgers is now married

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2025 Packers Schedule

Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM

COMMANDERS

Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM

Browns

Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM

Cowboys

Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM

BENGALS

Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM

Cardinals

Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM

Steelers

Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM

PANTHERS

Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM

EAGLES

Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM

Giants

Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM

Broncos

Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM

Bears

Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM

RAVENS

Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM

Vikings