Time to talk about Scott Tolzien?

luigis
Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

We'll be without #12 for 3 or more weeks.

I'm thinking I prefer to see Tolzien on the field rather than Seneca Wallace.

If, for some reason, Tolzien manages to get one or two wins then we might get some draft picks from this disaster. There are a lot of teams without a QB and there has been interest in Tolzien before.

Wallace is too short, too weak, too slow. Tolzien will probably throw a couple of picks per game but I say let's try, at least the Eagles will be unprepared for him.

What do you guys know about Tolzien?

Luis

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nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

He's 6' 3" so he's tall.

He's highly regarded as a backup, but I don't think his ceiling is necessarily that high.

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Pack93z
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11 years ago

Ted hates Wisconsin players.. so there is no chance that Scott lines up for the Packers. [grin1]

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nerdmann
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11 years ago

CBS Draft Analysis

Strengths: Experienced signal-caller who works under center and from the shotgun. Stands strong in the pocket to deliver passes despite knowing he will take a hit. Looks off safety to open up routes behind him. Owns mobility to be effective on bootlegs. Quick release, drops arm slot to sling out balls to the flat when necessary. High completion percentage between the hashes. Steps up into the pocket when pressure comes off the edge.

Weaknesses: Doesn't stretch field vertically or horizontally because of slightly below average arm strength. Not asked to throw to the wide side of the field often. Short follow-through on some passes with rush around him, loses accuracy. Benefitted from play-action in run-heavy offense. Does not drive the ball downfield. Loses spiral when trying to fit a ball in a tight space. Average height and three-quarter delivery results in tipped passes.

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hardrocker950
Member

11 years ago

I really don't know much about him, but given the circumstances it wouldn't hurt to give the guy some snaps and see what he has to offer. It's not like Wallace did much (but he wasn't exactly "ready" to be thrown into the fire.)

My understanding from a 9ers fan is he was let go in favor of Skelton - not ambitious enough to look into it though.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950

Ted & Mike saw enough in the guy to sign him to a rookie contract so he would not leave when The Browns went after him.

Still very raw, I'm betting they give Seneca a chance this week, if he doesn't show any improvement then Tolzien may get a shot.

Either way, it's gonna take a team effort to pick up some wins while Aaron is out.

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steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950

The 49ers are kind of weird with QBs it seems. They kept Tolzien in favor of Mcleod Bethel Thompson then cut Tolzien and kept BJ Daniels. They later cut BJ Daniels and picked up John Skelton. Then later this year they claimed Mcleod Bethel Thompson off waivers and cut John Skelton.

luigis
Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

It seems we'll go with Wallace next week. Really bad timing to play against the Eagles, short week, #12 gets injured and Foles seems to be in the zone.

We just don't have enough time to prepare some surprise packages or do we?

If McCarthy thinks we can play dink & dunk then we'll need a defensive miracle.

Luis

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

11 years ago

It's on NFL.com that he has been activated and Finley put in season ending IR.

Absolutely, Tolzien needs to start ahead of that lemon, Wallace. Preferably, Wallace gets cut and we pick up somebody else, but I don't really expect that to happen.

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go.pack.go.
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11 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Wallace had little to no reps with the 1's during the week of practice, or really at all since he has been here in Green Bay. It was a tough situation to throw him in there, not having had any reps with the starters at all. He is a serviceable backup that should do better with a week of preparation.

You can't just cut your QB that is expected to start and pick up a guy off the street, and expect your team to do better. That QB would have little to no chance of succeeding.

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