nerdmann
11 years ago
What percentage of this is due to passing on third and short?
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PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

What percentage of this is due to passing on third and short?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Don't know about distance but all of the failures we dropped back to pass on 3rd down.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
Pound it in with Lacy ........ IF we have 1st and Goal inside the 5. Run a normal pass first offense if we have 1st and 10 outside the 15. 1st and 10 between the 5 and 15, don't waste downs by running that could be used to throw for a TD. Deviate only if the defensive set is extreme against what we have called, in which case, Rodgers can change the play at the line.
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steveishere
11 years ago
1 game 100% red zone - L. 2 game 0% red zone - W, W. [aiee]
11 years ago
Didn't the 2010 Packers struggle in the red zone early on?


EDIT: False alarm, they struggled on third downs.
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beast
11 years ago

1 game 100% red zone - L. 2 game 0% red zone - W, W. [aiee]

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Very intersting stat.

Pound it in with Lacy ........ IF we have 1st and Goal inside the 5. Run a normal pass first offense if we have 1st and 10 outside the 15. 1st and 10 between the 5 and 15, don't waste downs by running that could be used to throw for a TD. Deviate only if the defensive set is extreme against what we have called, in which case, Rodgers can change the play at the line.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I agree about point it with Lacy. In past years it would seem like MM offense would chance once it got inside of the other team 40. They would take a couple more shots at big play or the end zone around there. Seems like that's still happening, but the pass rush is getting to Rodgers a lot more often now than in the past.

Maybe because the other team know it's coming or expect a pass in that range if MM play calling patterns show anything... but I'm thinking that little change in offense seems to hurt the Packers moving the ball, it's not working like it used to.

I remember when FB Hall was still around it seemed like Hall was always used between the 30 yard lines, and Kuhn was always inside the 30 yard lines, line there was some sort of automatic offensive switch that went on when they pasted a certain line in their play calling. Seems like MM is still switching it up at some point and the switch up isn't always working nearly as well as it has in the past.

Maybe pounding it more would help...

I still want to see MM use a RB some what like the Saints do... where they basically use the RB out of the back field more or less as a WR (like they did with Bush and Sproles) and I think Franklin could fit that role perrty well.

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TheKanataThrilla
11 years ago

What percentage of this is due to passing on third and short?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



It feels like a most of our third down drive enders are third and short and we flub the pass play. I really wish we'd have the sure-hand check-down receiver that could keep plays alive. Normally I'd see that as a slot receiver or a TE, but our team hasn't had a guy like that since Driver with Favre.
beast
11 years ago

It feels like a most of our third down drive enders are third and short and we flub the pass play. I really wish we'd have the sure-hand check-down receiver that could keep plays alive. Normally I'd see that as a slot receiver or a TE, but our team hasn't had a guy like that since Driver with Favre.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



I disagree... Jennings did it very well with a slant to the inside. Heck at times I think the defense knew it was coming and still couldn't stop the little slant route when Jenning run it, with both Rodgers and Favre. And Jennings did it in the Super Bowl to pick up what was thought to be a key first down (as they were hoping to put the dagger in on that drive with a TD, but ended only only getting a FG on that last drive by the Packers offense.


And Cobb has shown sparks of it at times, but not consistant with it.

But the others haven't shown it.


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DarkaneRules
11 years ago
I agree that the red zone efficiency is very concerning. I consider red zone efficiency to be one of the most important functions of an offense. Sure hope we get better 🙂
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buckeyepackfan
11 years ago
Got a lot of new guys going today, maybe one of them will show the ability to run that quick slant and have the good hands.

So many guys to watch today, win or lose, it's gonna be a fun game to watch.

Lot's of young guys gettin' their chance.
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