Dulak
  • Dulak
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11 years ago
read this:
http://www.nfl.com/jolly 

...

I really like how Al Harris (who was my fav packer) helped him get reinstated; helped his family pay some bills so his mother wouldnt lose her home and helped them stay on track ...
sometimes we need help in this world and there are actually decent people out there that help others.

I really wish we would of kept Harris for another season or 2.




buckeyepackfan
11 years ago
Special segment on Johnny running on NFL Netowrk now.
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Zero2Cool
11 years ago
I think this bit is a great example to potential free agents of the Packers. Check this out, this is how we do our team. We get each others back.
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sschind
11 years ago
Nice article. It makes you wonder about the wisdom of the NFL drug policy and its total exclusion of the player from the team during a suspension. If it had a negative affect on Jolly I'm sure it has had the same affect on other players as well. Unless its the players and coaches on your team who are the bad influences is it the best idea to cut the player off from them and possibly force them to associate even more with the "bad crowd." Everyone needs friends and if you take away a large part of the good influences what is left.

Obviously every situation is different so I don't know how it could be done differently but it certainly warrants looking into.

Regarding zero's comments about how we get each others back. Its a nice sentiment and I know we would all like to think the Packers are special in that way but I'm not so sure that is the case. I'd be willing to bet that pretty much any player in a similar situation would be treated the same way on pretty much any team.
DoddPower
11 years ago

Nice article. It makes you wonder about the wisdom of the NFL drug policy and its total exclusion of the player from the team during a suspension. If it had a negative affect on Jolly I'm sure it has had the same affect on other players as well. Unless its the players and coaches on your team who are the bad influences is it the best idea to cut the player off from them and possibly force them to associate even more with the "bad crowd." Everyone needs friends and if you take away a large part of the good influences what is left.

Obviously every situation is different so I don't know how it could be done differently but it certainly warrants looking into.

Regarding zero's comments about how we get each others back. Its a nice sentiment and I know we would all like to think the Packers are special in that way but I'm not so sure that is the case. I'd be willing to bet that pretty much any player in a similar situation would be treated the same way on pretty much any team.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I think there's many teams in the league that wouldn't have given Jolly another chance.

sschind
11 years ago

I think there's many teams in the league that wouldn't have given Jolly another chance.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I don't know about that. This is the NFL and the bottom line in most cases is can the guy play football? It can be argued that JJ didn't hurt anyone but himself with his behavior which is very different from a guy who is beating up people and stuff like like that. I think most teams would give a player like this the benefit of the doubt if there was still a chance he could play. To turn it around If JJ had hurt someone while on drugs or committed a robbery or something like that I doubt if the Packers would have given him another chance.

Even so, I guess I was referring more to the support he got from his team mates once he was given his 2nd (or was it his third) chance. I honestly don't think players are that much different throughout the league.
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