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11 years ago

Three games into the 2013 season, the Green Bay Packers are half the team they want to be defensively.

They have been great at limiting long runs but are among the NFL's worst at allowing pass plays of 20 or more yards.

They rank in the top 10 in fewest first downs allowed on third and 5 or more but sit tied for 29th in passing touchdowns allowed.

They have committed just two competitive penalties (non-personal foul or roughness) but have given up nine touchdown drives of 80 or more yards.

They have played the entire season without safety Morgan Burnett and cornerback Casey Hayward because of hamstring injuries, but they have not missed a start anywhere else on the unit

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I hope the return of Burnett and Hayward will solve all ills but I am not so sure. his may be Capers last season if he doesn't get things turned around. He is out of chances and excuses.
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nerdmann
11 years ago
Capers is on the hot seat.

But we all know that if Kaepernick and Dalton had only run 2/3 as many plays as they did, we'd be 3-0 and the defense would be ranking much higher.

Time of Possession, Mike. Get some.
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Mucky Tundra
11 years ago

Capers is on the hot seat.

But we all know that if Kaepernick and Dalton had only run 2/3 as many plays as they did, we'd be 3-0 and the defense would be ranking much higher.

Time of Possession, Mike. Get some.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Packers 31:51
Bengals 28:09

How much more do they need? 🤔

(The San Fran game is another matter though)
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nerdmann
11 years ago

Packers 31:51
Bengals 28:09

How much more do they need? 🤔

(The San Fran game is another matter though)

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



About another 5:00.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
hardrocker950
11 years ago
We have heard this before. I think injuries are part of the problem, but a DC's job is to make the most is of what he has to work with - and I'm not convinced he has done this.

I can't imagine our coverage getting any worse, but the way we have looked on D the past couple of years - this is his last chance to make me think he is as good as the talking heads claim. If I see another game like week 1 - I will officially be on board the "fire Capers" campaign.

EDIT - Nerdmann makes a valid point, the offense has not exactly helped out our D by extending ToP. Having our offense on the field longer gives us a better chance at winning.
gbguy20
11 years ago
This is definitely his last year to prove his worth.

EDIT: HOW BOUT THAT FUCKING OLINE COACH
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Gaycandybacon
11 years ago
I think we would of won that game if Rodgers didn't throw one of those 2 picks. If he doesn't throw that one to Cobb we definitely win. 31 minutes is a lot. You can't blame the Coach for the other 2 Interceptions that would of kept the drive going if not thrown to extend that 31.
Laser Gunns
11 years ago

Packers 31:51
Bengals 28:09

How much more do they need? 🤔

(The San Fran game is another matter though)

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



With how many turnovers they coughed up. We could have done a lot better.

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buckeyepackfan
11 years ago
YEAR..........PACKERS T.O.P.......OPP. T.O.P......TURNOVER RATIO......RECORD

2008................31:37................28:56....................+7.....................6-10
2009................33:02................26:57..................+24.....................11-5
2010................32:01................28:46..................+10.....................10-6
2011................30:29................29:31..................+24.....................15-1
2012................30:26................29:33..................+07.....................11-5

Another 5 minutes in Time of possession? That would make The Bengals game 36:51, a number that isn't reached very often in The NFL.

I hate bringing facts and stats into these conversations, the only STAT that counts is W-L record.

Time of possession does not calculate into winning games, there are too many variables that goes into who has the ball for how long.

It's all about winning the turnover battle, it always has been and it always will be.


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nerdmann
11 years ago

YEAR..........PACKERS T.O.P.......OPP. T.O.P......TURNOVER RATIO......RECORD

2008................31:37................28:56....................+7.....................6-10
2009................33:02................26:57..................+24.....................11-5
2010................32:01................28:46..................+10.....................10-6
2011................30:29................29:31..................+24.....................15-1
2012................30:26................29:33..................+07.....................11-5

Another 5 minutes in Time of possession? That would make The Bengals game 36:51, a number that isn't reached very often in The NFL.

I hate bringing facts and stats into these conversations, the only STAT that counts is W-L record.

Time of possession does not calculate into winning games, there are too many variables that goes into who has the ball for how long.

It's all about winning the turnover battle, it always has been and it always will be.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



We did win the turnover battle.


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