hahahaha I was just joking around, sschind. I think they should/will all be back also. Don't worry, the only thing he whispered to me is that he has me on speed-whisper if there is any important news.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 

49ers, Redskins and Bengals were all playoff teams last year. It's a tough way to start the season and those tough teams exaggerated the Packers weaknesses to a point they have to acknowledge and correct them.

Eddie Lacy, Morgan Burnett, Casey Hayward, Jermichael Finley, Clay Matthews III, James Starks and Jarrett Bush will all be playing against Detroit. This is going to be a huge difference for the Packers. Primarily Hayward and Burnett.

I can see the Packers running off three or four or even five wins after the BYE.

Edit, thought I'd add this.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

So were we.

And I agree we will "be ok" because of all the talent we have. In fact, this game unearthed Franklin.

Problem is, we always have great talent. But for some reason we always sh!t ourselves.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Kinda goes back to my query of can you share the same statistics with Brett Favre at the helm with McCarthy? Still waiting for that. Hit up NFL.com, you'll find everything ya need!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I'm torn on this team at the moment (in part because I haven't been able to actually watch any of the games except the end of the San Fran game); it seems like this team has improved in areas (run D, rushing game etc) while stagnating in others (pass pro, pass rush outside of Clay). At 1-2 I'm certainly not abandoning this season nor do I think a deep playoff run is out of the question but I am starting to grow suspect of the ability to play a full 60 minutes of football.

Hopefully the younger guys start growing a little, the run game syncs with the passing game and the defense gets healthy. The brutal looking schedule on paper before the season seems to have lost a little bite. The NFC East looks like a trainwreck with a 8-8 record taking the division. The Steelers look old and the Vikings look lost. And let's face it, how many teams these days come out with a head of steam at the beginning of the season and are still standing at the end?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 

Mucky Tundra, you haven't missed too much. We had it all going against WAS and had a lot going well v. CIN, but with as many mistakes.

The team looks like it is really struggling against good teams - Numerous offensive, ST and coaching miscues, with the same pourus middle D vs. the pass. To me, that points to coaching lapses. Thought our OL played OK. Rodgers was really off on some throws, and of course, some of those turn out to be important plays. Weird, but I think we will be OK.

It pisses me off that we are still trying to figure out a personnel issue we knew had to be addressed after the playoff loss to SF - LAST year. Finally cut him. Wow. Are our early games not that important?

Originally Posted by: play2win 

Mucky Tundra, you haven't missed too much. We had it all going against WAS and had a lot going well v. CIN, but with as many mistakes.

The team looks like it is really struggling against good teams - Numerous offensive, ST and coaching miscues, with the same pourus middle D vs. the pass. To me, that points to coaching lapses. Thought our OL played OK. Rodgers was really off on some throws, and of course, some of those turn out to be important plays. Weird, but I think we will be OK.

It pisses me off that we are still trying to figure out a personnel issue we knew had to be addressed after the playoff loss to SF - LAST year. Finally cut him. Wow. Are our early games not that important?

Originally Posted by: play2win