macbob
11 years ago

I was scared shatless when I thought Ross downed us at the 1 yard line.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



He came close to doing that. The ball isn't out-of-bounds until it touches something out-of-bounds (similar to it's not in the end zone until it's touched something in the end zone).

If the receiving team touches it before it goes out of bounds, we get the ball where it goes out. So, if Ross had touched it before it hit the ground out-of-bounds, it would have been our ball at the 1.

And he came really close to doing that. He touched it simultaneous with it hitting the ground, leaving it up to the ref's judgment.

He needed to be over there in case the ball did not go out of bounds (because it's a live ball once it's crossed 10 yards), but once it was going to bounce out of bounds there was NO reason at all to touch that ball.

I tried to make that point yesterday during the chat, but did not do a very good job of it.

I think Z2C has it posted in our links section, but for those interested here's the link to the NFL Rulebook:

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook 

There's a downloadable PDF version, which you can search.



play2win
11 years ago

HydeHydeHydeHydeHyde

They should just kneel down everytime. I can play from the 20 every possession, rather than the 10 yard line.

I was scared shatless when I thought Ross downed us at the 1 yard line.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



The dumb fuck almost did. He should be cut just for that...
play2win
11 years ago

He came close to doing that. The ball isn't out-of-bounds until it touches something out-of-bounds (similar to it's not in the end zone until it's touched something in the end zone).

If the receiving team touches it before it goes out of bounds, we get the ball where it goes out. So, if Ross had touched it before it hit the ground out-of-bounds, it would have been our ball at the 1.

And he came really close to doing that. He touched it simultaneous with it hitting the ground, leaving it up to the ref's judgment.

He needed to be over there in case the ball did not go out of bounds (because it's a live ball once it's crossed 10 yards), but once it was going to bounce out of bounds there was NO reason at all to touch that ball.

I tried to make that point yesterday during the chat, but did not do a very good job of it.

I think Z2C has it posted in our links section, but for those interested here's the link to the NFL Rulebook:

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook 

There's a downloadable PDF version, which you can search.



Originally Posted by: macbob 


You're right macbob, it was incredibly close. WAY TOO close. This is a KR in his 2nd season on the team, been in the league 3 years, and he's that unaware of the fundamentals in the return game? And, that's his specialty? Wow.
PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

He came close to doing that. The ball isn't out-of-bounds until it touches something out-of-bounds (similar to it's not in the end zone until it's touched something in the end zone).

If the receiving team touches it before it goes out of bounds, we get the ball where it goes out. So, if Ross had touched it before it hit the ground out-of-bounds, it would have been our ball at the 1.

And he came really close to doing that. He touched it simultaneous with it hitting the ground, leaving it up to the ref's judgment.

He needed to be over there in case the ball did not go out of bounds (because it's a live ball once it's crossed 10 yards), but once it was going to bounce out of bounds there was NO reason at all to touch that ball.

I tried to make that point yesterday during the chat, but did not do a very good job of it.

I think Z2C has it posted in our links section, but for those interested here's the link to the NFL Rulebook:

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook 

There's a downloadable PDF version, which you can search.



Originally Posted by: macbob 



This exact same situation happened last year and Cobb did the exact same thing. By stepping OB before touching the ball makes it a kick OB and a penalty regardless of whether the ball touches OB or not.


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steveishere
11 years ago
Yeah the ball didnt have to go oob at all because his foot was out
buckeyepackfan
11 years ago
That was a heads up lpay on Ross's part, he knew the rule, doesn't excuse his bad decisions on returns and fumbling.

Mt question is was Boykin inactive or is he hurt aslo?

Did not see him at all yesterday.
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Pack93z
11 years ago

That was a heads up lpay on Ross's part, he knew the rule, doesn't excuse his bad decisions on returns and fumbling.

Mt question is was Boykin inactive or is he hurt aslo?

Did not see him at all yesterday.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I thought I seen him on one offensive play.. #11.
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Pack93z
11 years ago
This is going to go to Nerds head...


Rob Demovsky ‏@RobDemovsky  now
#Packers have released WR/KR Jeremy Ross, who fumbled a kickoff yesterday

Mike Vandermause ‏@MikeVandermause  1m
#Packers announce they have released returner/receiver Jeremy Ross.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Gaycandybacon
11 years ago

I thought I seen him on one offensive play.. #11.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



They need to get him more active. I think they tried to use Quarless to much and rely on him to make plays catching the football. Guy has great size, and would be good to use if Finley isn't on the field.
macbob
11 years ago
I stand corrected--lord knows the refs wouldn't have made a bad call... :-"

Reading the rule book I would not have come up with the same interpretation they appear to be using, but what the heck. At least they seem to be consistent in calling it that way...

Hey, why didn't Ross step OB and touch it sooner??? Dumbass... [boxing]

edit: Since they cut Ross, now I feel like the dumbass.
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