Most irritating part of this game - Cinci shot themselves in the foot several times, and rather than making the most of it the pack took the gun from them and shot themselves right back.

I was disappointed in the 4th and inches - instead of going with a sweep or anything to make the defense have to adjust - we see the usual Mike McCarthy "rushing" play call. This "up the middle" boneheaded call caused a fumble circus that costed us the lead.

I could name numerous things that made me shout 4 letter beauties, but I think we can all name the obvious ones.

Let's get healthy and clean these mistakes up!

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 

Aaron does need to do something about this whole "4th quarter curse" thing.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

This means nothing, unless it can be compared to at least Brett Favre and Mike McCarthy and Favre and Mike Holmgren.

Show us those numbers please. If not, then that stat is as useful as saying the team with the most points wins 100% of the time.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Some fans may be unfamiliar with Bill Kenney, the Kansas City Chiefs’ signal caller from the 1980s. Most fans who even know Kenney are scratching their heads right now to figure out what he has to do with Green Bay’s Aaron Rodgers.

Bill who?

On the surface, the two have very little in common. But they share one startling similarity: Rodgers and Kenney are two of the worst quarterbacks of all time when it comes to fourth-quarter comeback opportunities:
Rodgers is 3-18 (.143)
Kenney was 3-27 (.100)
Rodgers was a first-round pick drafted to replace the legendary Brett Favre, while Kenney was Miami’s Mr. Irrelevant choice in the 1978 draft. He was technically next to last, but the final pick never made it to training camp so Kenney got the title. The Chiefs drafted Todd Blackledge in 1983 to replace Kenney.

Kenney was an average quarterback with a 34-43 record as a starter, and his only playoff appearance was coming off the bench in a defeat. Kenney is the only Mr. Irrelevant to ever make the Pro Bowl, as he was an alternate for his 1983 season in which he became the fourth NFL quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards in a season, beating Lynn Dickey (the fifth) by a day.

Rodgers is statistically out of this world. He has gone 41-21 in the last four years and won a Super Bowl and Super Bowl MVP in 2010. In 69 games, Rodgers already has 27 more touchdown passes and 89 more passing yards than Kenney had in his career (106 games).

But Kenney and Rodgers do have quite a bit in common.

Kenney and Rodgers are two of only five quarterbacks to produce a game with four touchdown passes and two touchdown runs. They both even had 38 pass attempts in that game. But that is a one-game comparison that just makes for interesting trivia.

The statistical similarities we are talking about go much deeper than one game, or one season for that matter. The greater similarity is that Rodgers, like Kenney, has consistently failed to come up big in critical fourth-quarter comeback opportuntiies.

It is the reason Kenney was not held in higher regard in his day, and it's the reason that has kept Rodgers from even more success in Green Bay.

A refresher in case you forgot your Captain Comeback terminology: a fourth-quarter comeback opportunity is when an offense has possession of the ball in the fourth quarter, trailing by 1-8 points (one score).

And Rodgers falls far short of most of his contemporaries. Consider Giants QB Eli Manning and Cowboys QB Tony Romo.
Manning, who knocked the 15-1 Packers out of the playoffs last season, is 21-22 (.488) in fourth-quarter comeback opportunities.
Romo, who is widely perceived as a huge choker, is 13-20 (.394) in fourth-quarter comeback opportuntiies.
Hell, even JaMarcus Russell was 3-6 in his short career; he was a defensive stop away from 4-5, and one of his other losses came when Justin Fargas fumbled the ball on the drive’s only play.

Some believe these things even out over the years, but Kenney played nine seasons, and Rodgers’ record involves the last five. How many years does one need to display a good or bad record in close games before you believe it is more than just a random fluke?

At some point, pure dumb luck should have given them a boost. Instead, Rodgers is Mr. Irrelevant in the fourth quarter, much like Kenney was Mr Irrelevant in the draft.

Are you crazy? How is 0-18 insignificant and meaningless?

Originally Posted by: play2win 

Are you going to share what was requested or is this just another dismissive stat that we have nothing to compare it to? It seems kind of obvious to me that a team that is above .500 is going to win, as indicated by their record.

Stats are great, I love them, but it really justify them, you need something to compare them to. I'm interested in seeing Favre/McCarthy or even Favre/Holmgren. You were able to collected Rodgers/McCarthy. I have confidence you can do this.



Edit, oh, and yes, I am.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I don't like it either. I actually feel more comfortable with Mason Crosby kicking a game winning 47 yard FG than Aaron Rodgers trying to drive for a touchdown to win the game from 50 yards out and 90 seconds on the clock.

Rodgers is great when things are going his way. When he's getting roughed up and hit, he buckles, just like Tom Brady.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

See how the best quarterbacks in the league largely make up the active leaders in GWDs? That is why Rodgers' 9-24 (.273) record at GWD opportunities continues to baffle me. Yeah, he's had some bad luck, but not significantly more so than the quarterbacks with more wins, which includes most of the league. A common trait with front-runner quarterbacks -- Len Dawson and Kurt Warner are two great examples -- is that even the few close wins they have are not that impressive. Rodgers has great stats on his nine GWDs (No. 4 in points per drive), but two of them came against the 2008 Lions (0-16). Another came against the Saints' awful defense last season.
His last GWD, at home against the 2012 Lions, was 59 yards and included seven running plays (handoffs). The closest thing to a signature drive is the one he had in New York (2011) in the final minute to set up a winning field goal to break a 35-35 tie. Given his career performance, I would like to see more from him in this area. It's a Green Bay problem, but the "best quarterback in the NFL" cannot have just nine GWDs against seven losing teams in five seasons.

Brett Favre is supposed to stay retired, so hopefully that will spare us any chance of the media claiming he is chasing the comeback record. He is credited with 42, but only has 27 comebacks, and is not exactly known for any real famous ones. Maybe the long game-winning TD pass to Sterling Sharpe against the Lions in the playoffs would be worth mentioning. Just not a situation Favre thrived in. The opportunities were certainly there for him to have more than anyone, but he did not come through with the record amount. A propensity for turnovers via forced throws is not what you look for in a QB in this situation.