Zero2Cool
11 years ago

Green Bay Packers, 1959-1967.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



So, they were never scored on and never committed a turn over and never were tackled?
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Jakest3r
11 years ago
I personally thought that shot that we took to the endzone to James Jones (I'm pretty sure this was 1st & 10 around the 30ish yard line) was the most unneeded part of that drive. We tried several shots like that all game and they obviously took those away, unless you count some of Jordy Nelson's circus catches. Rodgers definitely didn't look like himself, but there was some bad playcalling involved as well.


But damn that that O-line create some nice runs for our backs..... if only they could be that good in pass protection...
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yooperfan
11 years ago
Coaching, coaching, coaching!
sschind
11 years ago

The Packers show that they are the better team every week. They just don't win every week.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I didn't see how they showed they were the better team in week 1 and I haven't really watched this game yet (saw bits and pieces) but I'm not so sure they showed it against the Bengals either.
porky88
11 years ago

I'm much more concerned about all the previous failures than I am the last drive. The Packers had no choice but to try quick pass after quick pass during that last drive because they have no confidence in their pass protection. It then becomes pretty easy for those giant defensive linemen to knock down passes.

But still, I never thought the Packers would score on that last drive. Not for a second. The moral of the story for the Packers is: They can't allow themselves to be in that position at the end of games. They had PLENTY of opportunities to make sure it didn't happen throughout the course of the game, but they didn't do it.

Well deserved loss.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 


The Bengals did a great job of catching on at the end. Instead of just trying to sack Rodgers, they realized the ball was coming out quickly and got their hands up to knock the ball down at the line of scrimmage.

I think you have to mix things up once you get inside Cincinnati territory, though. I saw no screens at all today, which is something Johnathan Franklin did well at UCLA.

I understand McCarthy wasn’t willing to risk anything, but sometimes you have to take a chance. If you or I can notice that a quick pass is coming from our living rooms, then Mike Zimmer can from the coaching booth. You have to adapt.

Overall, I’m not surprised at the outcome. I was down on the Pack heading into the season and they got my hopes up with their play in the first two weeks. I just find this outcome hard to stomach because it reinforces McCarthy’s and Rodgers struggles during critical points in the game. Plus, this was such an ugly game. It was wild, but neither team can feel good about how they played. There was some bad football out there.
Gaycandybacon
11 years ago
Not making any excuses, but when your offensive players are dropping like flys it's hard to play good offense and win that game. The coaches must of been scrambling when Franklin got nicked up for a couple plays.
play2win
11 years ago
Rodgers AND McCarthy have to break the seal on this and start winning football games when down in the 4th Quarter against .500 teams or better. 0-18.

WTF?
DoddPower
11 years ago

Rodgers AND McCarthy have to break the seal on this and start winning football games when down in the 4th Quarter against .500 teams or better. 0-18.

WTF?

Originally Posted by: play2win 



That's just not Rodgers or McCarthy's (or the current Packers) game. Players are different. The Packers just have to capitalize on the opportunities they have to prevent themselves from being in such a situation. Much more so than not, they do just that, and it shows in the win/loss percentage.

Rodgers isn't the big time come from behind clutch quarterback. It's a weakness of his. I'm OK with that, though, because he's as good as anyone otherwise, and doesn't put himself in those situations very often. I'd prefer it that way, anyway. I don't want to see a lot of last minute drives for the win. I wish he and the team were better in come from behind victories, but it is what it is. I'd prefer that those situations never happen to begin with, though, and I'm confident that will be the case pretty often for the Packers. There was certainly no need for it to happen today. Too many missed opportunities earlier in the game. I'm not sure why anyone thought it was going to be different on the last drive.
Zero2Cool
11 years ago

Rodgers AND McCarthy have to break the seal on this and start winning football games when down in the 4th Quarter against .500 teams or better. 0-18.

WTF?

Originally Posted by: play2win 



This means nothing, unless it can be compared to at least Brett Favre and Mike McCarthy and Favre and Mike Holmgren.

Show us those numbers please. If not, then that stat is as useful as saying the team with the most points wins 100% of the time.
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sschind
11 years ago

Rodgers is not someone who can bring this team from behind. Additionally, his two interceptions were stupid throws in the tone that he had someone wide open in the flat. Piss poor decision making.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



What I would like to see is a stat that shows the number of times the QB got his team the lead in the 4th quarter, sometimes late in the 4th quarter, and the defense failed to hold it.



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