sschind
11 years ago
The excuse is they played better than we did and we made more mistakes than they did. Its as simple as that. We didn't beat ourselves they beat us. The refs didn't cost us the game our play and play calling did.

On the bright side it was not all bad. Losing to this team the way we did is nothing to be ashamed of.
play2win
11 years ago

Just to clear things up, you think Colin Kaepernick is a better QB than Aaron Rodgers? Got it.




Originally Posted by: sschind 



At this point in time? Absolutely. With no apologies.

Is anyone here realizing what this kid is bringing to the table?

He is essentially saying, "what are you going to give me? OK, I'll beat you with that."

You may be tired of hearing about what a great QB Keapernick is through these last 14 games or so of NFL action, regular and post season, but you may want to get yourself ready for more. This kid is a buzz saw. As good as Aaron is... He simply cannot and is not doing what Kaepernick is as a QB. Period.
play2win
11 years ago

The excuse is they played better than we did and we made more mistakes than they did. Its as simple as that. We didn't beat ourselves they beat us. The refs didn't cost us the game our play and play calling did.

On the bright side it was not all bad. Losing to this team the way we did is nothing to be ashamed of.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Love this post sschind, but, I am a bit ashamed. We have the exact same problems facing us two seasons later, in many areas of this team, still unaddressed.

If I have to see one more game turning drop from Finley I'm gonna puke.
Zero2Cool
11 years ago

Is anyone here realizing what this kid is bringing to the table?

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Yes, about a dozen games started, that's what he's bringing. He doesn't deserve nor has he earned this crown or pedestal people have firmly placed him on. You give any QB that time to hit wide open receivers, guess what, HE WILL. It's the NFL where there are many QB's who could have done the same thing and some vastly better.

Christian Ponder could have thrown for 400+ with that OL against the Packers.


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Gaycandybacon
11 years ago

Yes, about a dozen games started, that's what he's bringing. He doesn't deserve nor has he earned this crown or pedestal people have firmly placed him on. You give any QB that time to hit wide open receivers, guess what, HE WILL. It's the NFL where there are many QB's who could have done the same thing and some vastly better.

Christian Ponder could have thrown for 400+ with that OL against the Packers.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



If the Vikings had that line they wouldn't even pass it once! AP would be the one with 400 yards.
play2win
11 years ago

Yes, about a dozen games started, that's what he's bringing. He doesn't deserve nor has he earned this crown or pedestal people have firmly placed him on. You give any QB that time to hit wide open receivers, guess what, HE WILL. It's the NFL where there are many QB's who could have done the same thing and some vastly better.

Christian Ponder could have thrown for 400+ with that OL against the Packers.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I disagree about there being an incredible OL advantage setting him apart. He is keeping plays alive, outside the pocket with his feet.

SF had as many pocket breakdowns as did GB. SF, and Kaepernick were able to convert. GB and Rodgers, not so much.

I call bullshit on your Christian Ponder...
Gaycandybacon
11 years ago

I disagree about there being an incredible OL advantage setting him apart. He is keeping plays alive, outside the pocket with his feet.

SF had as many pocket breakdowns as did GB. SF, and Kaepernick were able to convert. GB and Rodgers, not so much.

I call bullsh!t on your Christian Ponder...

Originally Posted by: play2win 



So did Rodgers.. He used his feet too. Found his recievers all over the field. Only advantage I give Kap over Rodgers is his size. I believe Rodgers is still better. But that's because i'm a Packers fan. I would never say he's the better QB.

The difference is our defense never challenged their receivers. Free releases all day. If you can't jam a receiver like Bolden on a regular basis, he's gonna get open everytime. When we actually did play aggressive man to man. We did stop them.

Playing the 49ers vs the way they played us definitely didn't help either. To much zone, worried about him running free.

I'm not gonna make excuses but I just can't say he's better than Rodgers. He's just so damn Consistent and always shows up to play even if the other half of the team doesn't.
steveishere
11 years ago

I disagree about there being an incredible OL advantage setting him apart. He is keeping plays alive, outside the pocket with his feet.

SF had as many pocket breakdowns as did GB. SF, and Kaepernick were able to convert. GB and Rodgers, not so much.

I call bullsh!t on your Christian Ponder...

Originally Posted by: play2win 



He certainly did not. Kaepernick barely ever had to leave the pocket at all. Don't know where you got that from.
play2win
11 years ago
Whatever. I'm not going to get into a pissing contest of who is better, Rodgers or Kaepernick. I'm as much a Packers fan as any. Lifelong. Stockholder since '98.

Point is, the simple threat of Kaepernick running affected the way we played D. Not the case with Rodgers. Both are very solid passers, with nearly equal weapons at the skill positions. Our pass blocking was about the same as SF's. Really. Watched the game twice. Both OLs in pass pro were virtually the same, allowing for both quick throws (2 sec) and deep throws (>3 sec).

Our OL was horrible in run blocking. Theirs was not. I felt their play calling on O was better than our own. I believe both of those areas were pretty deficient. Our line is not proficient as run blockers, and our coaching staff is not proficient in calling a good running game.

Defensively, our S play was so poor that we could cut both MD Jennings and McMillian and not miss a beat. Wow, did they suck.
play2win
11 years ago

He certainly did not. Kaepernick barely ever had to leave the pocket at all. Don't know where you got that from.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Bullshit. I'm sick of this. Watch the F'ing game.
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
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