steveishere
11 years ago
With the quality of the back ups right now I don't really see them keeping 8 or 9 guys. They only have 1 back up right now (Newhouse/Barclay) with any proven ability. The rest of the guys most likely could make it to the practice squad and even if they didn't wouldn't be hard to replace with just a street guy. I don't think GVR or Lewis would really be a big deal to lose. So they probably keep the 1 back up and maybe 1 more but the rest they can just keep on the PS and call up if needed (and save a roster spot). For all we know Ted might even snatch up a guy that gets released from another team.
nerdmann
11 years ago

With the quality of the back ups right now I don't really see them keeping 8 or 9 guys. They only have 1 back up right now (Newhouse/Barclay) with any proven ability. The rest of the guys most likely could make it to the practice squad and even if they didn't wouldn't be hard to replace with just a street guy. I don't think GVR or Lewis would really be a big deal to lose. So they probably keep the 1 back up and maybe 1 more but the rest they can just keep on the PS and call up if needed (and save a roster spot). For all we know Ted might even snatch up a guy that gets released from another team.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Ted will definitely snatch a guy or two.

Ted's philosophy is that you can get by on the Oline with "just guys." Stick them in there and then get superstars at the "skill" positions.
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buckeyepackfan
11 years ago

Ted will definitely snatch a guy or two.

Ted's philosophy is that you can get by on the Oline with "just guys." Stick them in there and then get superstars at the "skill" positions.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



2010.. Bryan Bulaga 1st rnd, 2011...Derrick Sherard 1st rnd.....2009 TJ Lang 4th rnd
2008 Giacoma(3rd or 4th)

2012 Datko and Coleman in the 7th rnd(only offenseive players drafted)

2013 Bahkatari and Tretter both 4th rnd picks

I'm sure if Ted could have read the tea leaves and knew that Bulaga and Sherrard were going to get injured he would have spent those picks on other players.

Facts are, A. Rodgers is the only "skilled" position player Ted has used a #1 pick on.

The fact that The Packers "skilled" position players were mostly drafted in rnds 2,3 and 4 just shows how much work that goes into finding quality players in the later rnds.

Once again the FACTS get in the way of your take on Teds philosophy !!!
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nerdmann
11 years ago

2010.. Bryan Bulaga 1st rnd, 2011...Derrick Sherard 1st rnd.....2009 TJ Lang 4th rnd
2008 Giacoma(3rd or 4th)

2012 Datko and Coleman in the 7th rnd(only offenseive players drafted)

2013 Bahkatari and Tretter both 4th rnd picks

I'm sure if Ted could have read the tea leaves and knew that Bulaga and Sherrard were going to get injured he would have spent those picks on other players.

Facts are, A. Rodgers is the only "skilled" position player Ted has used a #1 pick on.

The fact that The Packers "skilled" position players were mostly drafted in rnds 2,3 and 4 just shows how much work that goes into finding quality players in the later rnds.

Once again the FACTS get in the way of your take on Teds philosophy !!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



You all right dude? LOL

Yeah man. Ted has invested TWO 1sts in the Oline. But he did so only after rebuilding the rest of the team. First thing he did when he took over was get rid of Wahle and Rivera. Now he is able to address the line to some degree. I would also note that he's addressing the T positions first. He'll probably get a viable C next.
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buckeyepackfan
11 years ago

You all right dude? LOL

Yeah man. Ted has invested TWO 1sts in the Oline. But he did so only after rebuilding the rest of the team. First thing he did when he took over was get rid of Wahle and Rivera. Now he is able to address the line to some degree. I would also note that he's addressing the T positions first. He'll probably get a viable C next.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



And as you argued over and over again, Ted had NO OTHER CHOICE, but to do so.

Don't state "Ted's philosophy is that you can get by on the Oline with "just guys." Stick them in there and then get superstars at the "skill" positions." Then try and backtrack.
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steveishere
11 years ago

You all right dude? LOL

Yeah man. Ted has invested TWO 1sts in the Oline. But he did so only after rebuilding the rest of the team. First thing he did when he took over was get rid of Wahle and Rivera. Now he is able to address the line to some degree. I would also note that he's addressing the T positions first. He'll probably get a viable C next.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Well when he first got here he didn't have to get any T cause he had Clifton and Tausch. He got an all-pro quality guard in Sitton and used a 2nd on College. For the most part injuries are what has screwed up the offensive line not drafting (or supposed lack thereof).
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11 years ago

You all right dude? LOL

Yeah man. Ted has invested TWO 1sts in the Oline. But he did so only after rebuilding the rest of the team. First thing he did when he took over was get rid of Wahle and Rivera. Now he is able to address the line to some degree. I would also note that he's addressing the T positions first. He'll probably get a viable C next.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I think you conveniently forget that GB was in cap hell when Ted took over. There was no way for him to compete with the high market prices the two guys got even if he had wanted to. If I recall it worked out for the best that he did not retain either one of them. They were not worth the money they got over their entire contracts. So one can say that was genius on Ted's part (even if it was by default.) after all that is how we landed Mrs Colledge! =d>
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nerdmann
11 years ago

Well when he first got here he didn't have to get any T cause he had Clifton and Tausch. He got an all-pro quality guard in Sitton and used a 2nd on College. For the most part injuries are what has screwed up the offensive line not drafting (or supposed lack thereof).

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Didn't have to get a QB either.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
11 years ago

Didn't have to get a QB either.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Because no GM thinks he has to replace his 36 year old starter?? I don't get your logic here. He most certainly had to get a QB.
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steveishere
11 years ago

Didn't have to get a QB either.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Were any of the lineman contemplating retirement? Would any lineman he drafted have been the best draft pick in the league since 2005? Didn't think so. Bad example.
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