DarkaneRules
11 years ago
I don't know about you guys, but he just doesn't seem to ever effect the play positively anymore. I either see him turned around or falling down. I have been most disappointed with him out of the d-line group this pre-season. Anyone else?
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11 years ago
I haven't seen any of the preseason so I can answer that, but I've been disappointed in him for two years now.

IMO he's the most overrated starter on the team.
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nerdmann
11 years ago
Haven't focused on him.

He's in a contract year tho, isn't he?
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RaiderPride
11 years ago
YES. He is in a contract year. This should be a motivation for BJ... The Pack chose to not sign him until after his contract year? Does this mean they are sceptical? Or saving money?

Here is what would worry me if I was Ted.

"Don't forget now, I was the ninth pick in the draft (in 2009)," Raji said. "I'm doing OK. I've made some money now and I've been pretty smart with it."

You have to be HUNGRY to be in the upper echeloned of the NFL in your position.

The statement above makes me worried he is CONTENT.

CONTENT died... When HUNGRY was born.
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beast
11 years ago

I've thought Raji hasn't shown much explosiveness since his second year. People have said it's because of the lost of Jenkins and not getting one on ones anymore but that's not true. Raji has gotten one on ones at times and has done nothing with them.

I think it has more to do with the 3-4 scheme asking him to play a lot more two gap (run clogging) first and pass rush second than anything to do with Jenkins. And to be quite frank, Raji is very big... and decent against the run and run clogging... but he's not as hard to move as his size would suggest.

Honestly I think Jolly might be getting up into the top 2 of hardest guys to move on the Packers roster with Pickett being the other one. Though Jolly, Pickett and Raji are a lot of beef...

I might want Pickett and Jolly to play running downs more.
Jones more for passing downs.
And rotating in Raji, Danials and Wilson in some with both.
Didn't list Neal because he might be more at OLB.


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Gaycandybacon
11 years ago
What do you want him to do? It's preseason. I don't like judging guys by the preseason, especially vets like him. Obviously a solid preseason can springboard a solid regular season, but there should be no discussion about resigning this guy until after this season. Just like Finley.

It wouldn't be the end of the world though if we do end up not signing him, we can draft a NT high in the draft next year. There will be hard shoes to fill if will go through with it. I bet we franchise him. He's not worth a long term contract as of now.
beast
11 years ago

YES. He is in a contract year. This should be a motivation for BJ... The Pack chose to not sign him until after his contract year? Does this mean they are sceptical? Or saving money?

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 



I think both... saving money, because they know a player of his talent is gonna cost a pretty penny, sceptical because he hasn't consistently lived up to that pretty penny price.

Though I think it's a bit different with Shields. I think the scraptical but losing money because he's going to be worth more after this season than before this season, after covering #1 WRs more... then again... maybe he the #1 WRs beat him up some he won't be worth more. We'll see.


Here is what would worry me if I was Ted.

"Don't forget now, I was the ninth pick in the draft (in 2009)," Raji said. "I'm doing OK. I've made some money now and I've been pretty smart with it."

You have to be HUNGRY to be in the upper echeloned of the NFL in your position.

The statement above makes me worried he is CONTENT.

CONTENT died... When HUNGRY was born.

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 



I agree... also after losing the 49ers playoff game, Sitton made a comment sounding like he was happy with the Super Bowl ring he already has. I didn't like that comment but then again he was probably just brashing off the haters, after all he plays pretty well.


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Laser Gunns
11 years ago
So much so that I really want to change my PH name :-&

Raji is not living up to what I thought he would be.

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blueleopard
11 years ago
Haters gonna hate, but I say you're spoiled. Instead of complaining over your conjecture, you should state what you would do to improve the defensive line.

How many games has this guy missed? He played in a 4-3 scheme in BC and drew comparisons to Warren Sapp when he was in the draft process. Sapp was an all-around player, but he also got above average sack numbers playing his position. What happened when he moved to Oakland? He played in the 3-4 and eventually became a forgotten man until retirement.

What Capers and Trgovac ask of Raji and the fact that he's held up shows his athleticism, and yeah he's been pushed around -- but we haven't exactly been going against poor offensive lines as of late. Line play is better as a unit.

In the Super Bowl year we had plenty of packages from the rush package where we had Jenkins/Pickett/Raji to the jumbo package of Raji/Green/Pickett -- that combined with stellar play from the other players on defense led to wrinkles such as the Raji interception.

Has he been playing like a top 10 pick? Maybe not, but he hasn't been a bust if that's what anybody's trying to imply.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

Haters gonna hate, but I say you're spoiled. Instead of complaining over your conjecture, you should state what you would do to improve the defensive line.

How many games has this guy missed? He played in a 4-3 scheme in BC and drew comparisons to Warren Sapp when he was in the draft process. Sapp was an all-around player, but he also got above average sack numbers playing his position. What happened when he moved to Oakland? He played in the 3-4 and eventually became a forgotten man until retirement.

What Capers and Trgovac ask of Raji and the fact that he's held up shows his athleticism, and yeah he's been pushed around -- but we haven't exactly been going against poor offensive lines as of late. Line play is better as a unit.

In the Super Bowl year we had plenty of packages from the rush package where we had Jenkins/Pickett/Raji to the jumbo package of Raji/Green/Pickett -- that combined with stellar play from the other players on defense led to wrinkles such as the Raji interception.

Has he been playing like a top 10 pick? Maybe not, but he hasn't been a bust if that's what anybody's trying to imply.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



Keep in mind they haven't been keeping him fresh all the time or playing him at his real position either.
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