play2win
11 years ago

Using that logic, the game SHOULD HAVE BEEN 23-7.

Packers 1st team scored using your logic.

The refs made a bad call.

Nevermind, I don't have the strength anymore.

[wallme] [wallme] [wallme]

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Yes, I can agree with that.

steveishere, it is no big deal. I admit fully that my response to you was reactionary. What more do you want? I'm not wanting anything adversarial with you, at all. In general terms, the team performed poorly against another team who looked better prepared. A closer look reveals we did not play our starters very long, and many simply did not play at all. There were indeed some encouraging individual performances, in spite of the lopsided preseason loss.

I guess it is best to take it for what it is. Peace bro! No big thing.
steveishere
11 years ago

Yes, I can agree with that.

steveishere, it is no big deal. I admit fully that my response to you was reactionary. What more do you want? I'm not wanting anything adversarial with you, at all. In general terms, the team performed poorly against another team who looked better prepared. A closer look reveals we did not play our starters very long, and many simply did not play at all. There were indeed some encouraging individual performances, in spite of the lopsided preseason loss.

I guess it is best to take it for what it is. Peace bro! No big thing.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



I'm not directing anything towards you individually. There was a much larger negative reaction (overreaction) than just you specifically to the preseason game (all around the web, not just here) so I wasn't being personal with you at all (you were just mainly the one I was debating with though your excessive use of hyperbole towards me was annoying). It's just my personality I guess that I get irritated when fans go crazy over preseason games. I won't disagree with someone complaining about the way a player played during preseason but things like judging units collectively or play calling or the defensive/offensive scheme really get to me because those things don't matter in these games.
Gaycandybacon
11 years ago

Agree with Bacon, but if Franklin wants to get those dump off opportunities, he'll have to learn to pass block, which will probably take him a year.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I don't think he's afraid to pass block either. He'll get better as the year goes on. Lacy is absolutely one of our better pass blockers, and he'll be most likey turn into our 3rd down back. I didn't think Franklin did to bad out there on Friday, I just thought they didn't give him much to be successful. Should give him more swing passes, he was very good at catching the ball and running up the sidelines in college.
PackerTraxx
11 years ago
If this was the last rather than the first pre season I'd be much more worried...even though none of them matter at all.
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play2win
11 years ago

I don't think he's afraid to pass block either. He'll get better as the year goes on. Lacy is absolutely one of our better pass blockers, and he'll be most likey turn into our 3rd down back. I didn't think Franklin did to bad out there on Friday, I just thought they didn't give him much to be successful. Should give him more swing passes, he was very good at catching the ball and running up the sidelines in college.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



Actually, much of the run blocking by everyone on that OL, starters through prospects, was nothing to write home about. I'm sure it will get better as positions become established and they get more reps together. Franklin does possess a great amount of speed. He's going to be fun to watch this year, if we can give him some lanes to run through.

Man, this OL has been decimated by injuries over the course of our last 3 seasons. Every year we seem to be doing the same things at this time; hoping to have some new players pan out to replace injured starters, hoping the players we have can solidify as a sound OL unit before the season starts. Crazy.
Cheesey
11 years ago
Well.....i'd rather have them stink it up now then when they really count.
Maybe this will make MM light a fire under them and make them realize that how they play now will decide if they have a job next month.

buckeyepackfan
11 years ago
From Ask Vic,

"Whatever it was you saw on Friday night, it had nothing to do with scheme because there wasn’t much of one beyond you take him and you take him. The Packers’ scheme, as you would expect, was very basic and repetitive. The whole idea of a preseason game is to use it as a measuring stick of young talent. The best way to do that is to put young players in easy-to-understand assignments that feature physical skill over execution of scheme."

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/ask-vic/article-1/Lets-focus-on-Packers-individual-performances/7ab70341-d395-4302-ac81-3529e5041b0e 
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DarkaneRules
11 years ago
Yeah I remember commenting I am pretty sure they were in base almost, if not, the entire time. I think we maybe attempted one or two blitzes but that is it.
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